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Clutch acting strange.... #932275 02/21/09 07:04 PM
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rovers1973 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
My clutch seems to have two issues. First, it doesn't seem to disengage all the way, since its difficult to get into gear when driving, but it does go in. The other thing is, when I let the pedal out, its almost like it sticks, then all of a sudden releases. You can actually hear a bit of a metallic thump each time about halfway through the pedal travel as it grabs. There is also a ticking noise while moving the pedal in and out, but not when the pedal is still.
I had the clutch and clutch fork replaced about 10k miles ago and I rebuilt and bled the master cylinder too.


91 SR5 Xtra Cab, 298000km, 4" lift, 56" rear springs, 33-12.5R15 BFG Mud-Terran T/A KM2.....and an '85 axle still waiting to go in.
Re: Clutch acting strange.... [Re: rovers1973] #932276 02/22/09 01:26 AM
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Buck Offline
Mudrunner
Wouldn't be surprised if your clutch was going again. Mine grenaded at around 12000 miles, came out in 3 pieces, the thread with pics is up here. It was doing some similar things.


84 Ext. Cab Pickup.
Re: Clutch acting strange.... [Re: Buck] #932277 02/22/09 02:22 AM
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atoyot Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Did you replace the pilot bearing? They are often overlooked, and can make your clutch drag like you described. They do a lot of work for such a tiny bearing...

Re: Clutch acting strange.... [Re: rovers1973] #932278 02/22/09 04:39 AM
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OOP'S Offline
Roll Me Over
Check the bracket under the dash and the firewall where the clutch MC bolts to see if they are cracking. Known problem on Toyotas.


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Re: Clutch acting strange.... [Re: OOP'S] #932279 02/22/09 05:43 AM
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Adam F Offline
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Yup, sounds like someting in the pedal. Cracked bracket, or the clevis pin that holds the pedal to the master cylinder is loose.


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Re: Clutch acting strange.... [Re: atoyot] #932280 02/23/09 10:58 PM
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rovers1973 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
I did check the pedal and the linkage when I rebuilt the master, but I'll check again. I know for a fact that the shop didn't replace the bearing (is the pilot also called the throwout bearing sometimes?). I just assumed that it was done when a new clutch was put in so I didn't ask until after (my own fault). Guess there's no way to know for sure without having it all taken apart again huh?


91 SR5 Xtra Cab, 298000km, 4" lift, 56" rear springs, 33-12.5R15 BFG Mud-Terran T/A KM2.....and an '85 axle still waiting to go in.
Re: Clutch acting strange.... [Re: rovers1973] #932281 02/24/09 12:13 AM
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whitetoy Offline
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I did check the pedal and the linkage when I rebuilt the master, but I'll check again. I know for a fact that the shop didn't replace the bearing (is the pilot also called the throwout bearing sometimes?). I just assumed that it was done when a new clutch was put in so I didn't ask until after (my own fault). Guess there's no way to know for sure without having it all taken apart again huh?

Pilot and throw-out are not the same. Both bearings should always be replaced when the clutch is done, especially the throw-out.
Before going to the expense of the clutch itself, replace the MC with a new one (they are inexpensive). Most people don't rebuild those things anymore. A bad MC can also cause those symptoms.


Rick
1984 4Runner
Re: Clutch acting strange.... [Re: whitetoy] #932282 02/25/09 10:45 PM
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rovers1973 Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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Pilot and throw-out are not the same. Both bearings should always be replaced when the clutch is done, especially the throw-out.
Before going to the expense of the clutch itself, replace the MC with a new one (they are inexpensive). Most people don't rebuild those things anymore. A bad MC can also cause those symptoms.


What would be bad with the M/C besides all the guts which get replaced?


91 SR5 Xtra Cab, 298000km, 4" lift, 56" rear springs, 33-12.5R15 BFG Mud-Terran T/A KM2.....and an '85 axle still waiting to go in.
Re: Clutch acting strange.... [Re: rovers1973] #932283 02/26/09 01:50 AM
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whitetoy Offline
Mudrunner
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What would be bad with the M/C besides all the guts which get replaced?

You may not have done a good job replacing the guts, and the little rubber piston thingees could be binding. This happened to me once.


Rick
1984 4Runner
Re: Clutch acting strange.... [Re: whitetoy] #932284 03/01/09 06:29 AM
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Pyroboy Offline
Mudrunner
Also check the clutch pedal pivot bolt and bushing. The clutch master can also make the pedal feel like it's "clicking".


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