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Flat towing a SWB? #933871 03/03/09 07:33 AM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 189
Cochese Offline OP
Wheeler
Hi all!

I found a 1988 Raider parts truck with a bad motor and possibly a bad tranny for cheap. It's 50.2 miles from my house and I need to tow it home. My tow vehicle is a 400 horsepower Trailblazer with a Class III 2 inch receiver. There is also a wiring pigtail sitting in the glovebox, although I haven't tried to hook it up yet.

I'm looking at flat towing this parts truck to my house. There is a harbor freight tools down the street from me and I though of picking up some things from them and getting ready to set this up.

I wanted to make sure that a 5 speed SWB that will go into neutral and has a T-Case that will go into neutral will be okay to flat tow. Anyone flat tow a 5 speed SWB?

Anything I need to worry about?

I'm looking at this stuff:

Tow bar... $47.99
http://ww2.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94696

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This set of safety chains for $19.99
http://ww2.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92450

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This hitch ball/mount for $16.99
http://ww2.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94900

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This light kit for $9.99
http://ww2.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96933

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What say ye, Wire brain trust?


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1987 Dodge Raider TSi

...it begins.
Re: Flat towing a SWB? [Re: Cochese] #933872 03/03/09 07:49 AM
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K_Raider Offline
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I know I can push mine in 2WH with the 5-speed in neutral.... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


88 Raider- sitting on a full size Chevy frame with 35.5x11.50x16 Dyna Torque II tractors
89 Montero- stock 2.6 M/T 30-9.50 BFG all terrains on American Racing Wheels
99 2500 Ram- 285-75-16 Uniroyal all terrains,straight pipes with no cat (yes its loud)
Re: Flat towing a SWB? [Re: Cochese] #933873 03/03/09 08:58 AM
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CapnCrunch Offline
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I've flat-towed mine a bunch of times. Just put the tranny shifter in neutral and leave the t-case shifter in 2H.

Regarding mounting the towbar the front of the rig, don't trust drilling into and mounting it to the front bumper. A buddy of mine did that and over time he ended up pulling it through the thin wall of the bumper. Try to mount it to the frame.

Also, don't forget to disconnect the negative terminal on the battery, put the key in the ignition, and unlock the steering wheel for the duration of towing (unless you feel like making turning more like a thrill-ride <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />).


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Re: Flat towing a SWB? [Re: CapnCrunch] #933874 03/03/09 04:37 PM
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Chief Offline
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For the cost of the tow bar, chain, lighting etc., you could rent a car trailer, probably save a few bucks.
Unless of course you have other uses for those items.


'89 Raider V6, AT, SAS'ed, Dana 44 front & rear, 5:38 gears, NP 231 T-case.
'97 Montero SR, cold weather package, 4.90 R&P, BATTLEZ suspension w/ 2" lift, JAOS grill guard & under body protection, custom rock sliders.
Re: Flat towing a SWB? [Re: Chief] #933875 03/03/09 05:22 PM
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rxinhed Offline
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Jason,

I have all those pieces and regularly use them to get Monteros and Raiders. My concern when hitching up is the threads for the welded nuts that retain the bumper bolts. The last Raider that I towed (mine) is sketchy. When I towed Ray's former blue Monty (now our Molly), no sweat - everything was in great shape. Once I find someone to weld for me, I'm planning on a different removable mount for the tow bar. The observation about the bumper fatigue above is getting to be a concern to me, if just for public safety. For a one time trip, I wouldn't worry.

R-

Re: Flat towing a SWB? [Re: rxinhed] #933876 03/03/09 05:43 PM
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Posts: 13,649
fasteddy Offline
Web Wheeler
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Rent a tow dolly or car trailer and winch the donor on with a comealong.

You only have to worry about flat towind or dolly towing on an a/t, because the oil pump on the a/t only runs when the motor is turning, so towing burns up the tranny in the a/t with no lube oil circulating. M/T is splash lubed with no pump, so no problem.

I've flat towed an a/t with a working engine by just idling the engine during the tow. I pulled a 73 Fury from Hobbs, NM to B'ham, AL that way with no damage, ignoring the bumper that the tow bar broke. The Fury pulled out to pass in Jackson, MS on I20 on the way back. My last experience with a tow bar...


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Re: Flat towing a SWB? [Re: CapnCrunch] #933877 03/03/09 06:27 PM
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NickR Offline
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I've flat-towed mine a bunch of times. Just put the tranny shifter in neutral and leave the t-case shifter in 2H.

Regarding mounting the towbar the front of the rig, don't trust drilling into and mounting it to the front bumper. A buddy of mine did that and over time he ended up pulling it through the thin wall of the bumper. Try to mount it to the frame.

Also, don't forget to disconnect the negative terminal on the battery, put the key in the ignition, and unlock the steering wheel for the duration of towing (unless you feel like making turning more like a thrill-ride <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />).
Cochese x2 on what CapnCrunch said. If your 50 mile tow involves the freeway, you definitely want it attached to the frame or tow dolly/tow trailer. If it's a 50 mile tow by street at low speed should be able to get by this one time, but look into welding for a long term solution. Due a search on my username for my setup on flat towing.

Last edited by NickR; 03/03/09 06:38 PM.

1987 Dodge Raider, stick on 33", 2.5" BL, Con-ferr roof rack, Hella driving lights & pencil beam lights.

Stuff collecting dust in the garage
SR Axle
LSD 3rd member
Early Gen 1 Bouncy seat
Early Gen 1 two piece rear bumper
2 sets of SWB Gen I rear seat-belts.
Set of Aisin Hubs.
Re: Flat towing a SWB? [Re: NickR] #933878 03/04/09 12:53 AM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 191
89Montiero Offline
Wheeler
Ditto the tow-dolly most uhauls have them for something like $59/day. My neighbor bought that harbor freight tow bar setup and it is cheap, I mean C.H.E.A.P. I would be sketched out towing something with it personally.

tow-dolly is how I hauled my 2-door V6 raider home from Oregon with the 08 tundra and it pulled like sweet peas. Be sure you don't put the transfer case in neutrel it won't tow. Just leave transfer in 2H and put the gear shifter in neutrel obviously. Don't ask me why, mine wouldn't tow with both transmission and transfer in neutrel.

Whats a great price for a parts truck these days? I found a 90 black LWB LS model decent condition not running that I've considered picking up either to get it running or pimp out my 2 door. Guy wants $400 for it, gotta go drive 100 miles to get it too.


1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB V6. Torsion bar crank, Gen II springs, 31X10.5" BF Goodrich M/T's
2005 Mitsubishi Montero Limited 3.8 V6
2011 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport
Re: Flat towing a SWB? [Re: 89Montiero] #933879 03/04/09 04:01 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,356
MontyMcV Offline
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[hijack]

Where is this 90 non-runner? I want a non-running, decent body, Gen I. If it's near me, and you're not up for it...

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Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
Daughter's: 06 Eclipse, Keeping it Mitsu!
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Re: Flat towing a SWB? [Re: 89Montiero] #933880 03/04/09 07:14 AM
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K_Raider Offline
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Just leave transfer in 2H and put the gear shifter in neutrel obviously. Don't ask me why, mine wouldn't tow with both transmission and transfer in neutrel.

I tried to tow mine with both in neutral and got the same result. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Why is this???


88 Raider- sitting on a full size Chevy frame with 35.5x11.50x16 Dyna Torque II tractors
89 Montero- stock 2.6 M/T 30-9.50 BFG all terrains on American Racing Wheels
99 2500 Ram- 285-75-16 Uniroyal all terrains,straight pipes with no cat (yes its loud)
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