Your buddies are smoking and inhaling. And not sharing <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/nana.gif" alt="" />

If the winch is attached just to the bumper, your light aluminum bumper,it will deform the bumper on first good pull.

Put a steel bracket between frame rails, bolt it to the frame and bolt the winch to it. That's why I have cutoff saw and welder. So you'd come over and we use them. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />