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Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: Ruination_Fan] #939256 04/08/09 06:10 PM
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Alex Kogan Offline
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Not so fast. Using SR 3rd member requires using it's axle shafts. I believe you can mate those to leaf axle also gaining additional benefit of disk brakes. MSport had drum in rear on leaf axle. So the easier would be to find MSport Ltd 98-99 axle with locker already. Again it will have 4.272 ratio so you would need to either source 2000+ 3rd from MSport XLS or Ltd (they both had 3.5L = big axle and 4.9 ratio) then swap the gears or get new set from dealer.


92 SR, 285/75R16 Yoko MT ARB locker GAST compressor AirLift 1000 MM10500 Snorkel custom rear bumper
02 Montero LS died protecting the master
08 PowerWagon (stock!)
Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: Alex Kogan] #939257 04/08/09 07:28 PM
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Ok, so in order to use the SR 3rd member on a Sport axle housing is by using the axles and the SR 3rd memeber correct??? And then find a Sport with 4.9 gears, and take the ring and pinion from those??? Thanks for thje insight Alex. Exact info i am looking for. Thanks again.

Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: Ruination_Fan] #939258 04/08/09 07:57 PM
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My MS axle has disk brakes.


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Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: LandRaider] #939259 04/08/09 09:04 PM
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We had a round of posts a short while ago on Mitsu axles, lockers, coils versus leaf, etc. In that thread I asked about the notion of difficulty in fitting an SR axle to a leaf-sprung SWB, as for where I am, finding an SR locker would be much easier than an MS locker.

Curtis of course was quick to respond along the lines of "hell yes, do it and let us know how it works out." <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

I looked under my 95 last week, and also the SWB. Looks to me to be pretty damned easy to set up the SR axle for the SWB. Or more to the point, it looks to be much easier that building some Franken-Mitsu-stein axle out of pieces-parts. Looks to me like you might even spend more time grinding off the coil hardware than you'll spend fabbing the leaf pads (or whatever their proper name is).

FWIW...


Now if only I had looked before the Pull-A-Part scrapped the 95 SR they had. I could have locked the SWB for ~$200 and some time. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />


Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
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Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: MontyMcV] #939260 04/08/09 09:23 PM
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Ruination_Fan Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
If i was to get the '95 SR axle, i was planning on cutting of the coil perches and welding on leaf spring pearches. But if by some stroke of luck there was a sport axle along with that SR axle, it wouldnt take to long to swap the SR diff and axles into the Sport housing(joy of 3rd members and lack of C-clips). Now.....if a 90-93(i think this is the year range) SR axle is at the yard, is it a gaurante like the 95 to have an air locking diff, or pretty much see if the button is there for it?? And the difference between the 93 axle is a smaller ring gear(9" vs 9.5")?? Thanks for all your help and information guys, you guys really are helping figure out the axle situation.

Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: Ruination_Fan] #939261 04/08/09 09:43 PM
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MontyMcV Offline
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Yeah, I thought after I posted that if you are talking SAS, you know the possibilities thatlie out there. Smaller diff on the earlier SRs and hit or miss on locker. Need to look for the switch as you said.


Big Truck: 00, 3.5, Endeavor, 5-Spd drive line in hand!
Little Truck: 87, 2.6T I/C, MT, LSDs, Tonneau Top
Her Truck: 03, 3.8, 20th Anniv, 65k
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Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: LandRaider] #939262 04/08/09 10:19 PM
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Alex Kogan Offline
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My MS axle has disk brakes.

you have the "small" 9" axle


92 SR, 285/75R16 Yoko MT ARB locker GAST compressor AirLift 1000 MM10500 Snorkel custom rear bumper
02 Montero LS died protecting the master
08 PowerWagon (stock!)
Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: Ruination_Fan] #939263 04/08/09 10:25 PM
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Alex Kogan Offline
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If i was to get the '95 SR axle, i was planning on cutting of the coil perches and welding on leaf spring pearches. But if by some stroke of luck there was a sport axle along with that SR axle, it wouldnt take to long to swap the SR diff and axles into the Sport housing(joy of 3rd members and lack of C-clips). Now.....if a 90-93(i think this is the year range) SR axle is at the yard, is it a gaurante like the 95 to have an air locking diff, or pretty much see if the button is there for it?? And the difference between the 93 axle is a smaller ring gear(9" vs 9.5")?? Thanks for all your help and information guys, you guys really are helping figure out the axle situation.

Smaller ring gear smaller axles 28 spline 1.2" v 31 spline 1.4" on 95+ (actually it started in early 94)SR. Lockers on 91-93 are pretty rare. But the come with 4.875 axle ratio.


92 SR, 285/75R16 Yoko MT ARB locker GAST compressor AirLift 1000 MM10500 Snorkel custom rear bumper
02 Montero LS died protecting the master
08 PowerWagon (stock!)
Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: Alex Kogan] #939264 04/09/09 05:34 AM
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Ruination_Fan Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Ok.....think i got this. So '95 SR with locker is best bet...cut off perches....and then get gears. Who makes gears for theses axles??? Factory?? Thanks again for all the help everyone.

Re: Axle Widths (WMS-WMS) [Re: Ruination_Fan] #939265 04/09/09 06:25 AM
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Alex Kogan Offline
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Factory only. 4.9 is lowest you can get for "big" axle. 5.29 is available overseas for smaller 9" axle


92 SR, 285/75R16 Yoko MT ARB locker GAST compressor AirLift 1000 MM10500 Snorkel custom rear bumper
02 Montero LS died protecting the master
08 PowerWagon (stock!)
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