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cooling system disaster #941356 04/20/09 03:44 AM
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same 99 montero (gen II.5 montero).

after engine is hot, shut off, and then starts cooling, the lower radiator hose starts collapsing on itself as if under intense vacuum pressure. I am not a cooling system expert, but I don't think it is supposed to do that is it? I thought it is supposed to suck coolant back into radiator from overflow bottle but it doesn't appear to be doing that.

I have a brand new mitsu t-stat, brand new mitsu radiator cap, brand new mitsu overflow bottle, what gives???? also, I was looking at the rad cap, I understand how it pushes coolant out into the overflow tank, but I can't understand the physics of the cap that allows coolant to go back into the radiator from the bottle; anyone know how it does this?

lastly, I did check the tube from rad neck to overflow bottle and it is not plugged up.

what gives???


97 Montero SR w/Mitsu Adj Shocks & Rear Diff Lock ARB Front Diff Lock 4.9 Ring/Pinion 3.15 transfer box 43:1 crawl ratio 2" suspen lift 2" body lift 2" Gas Tank Lift 35x12.5 MTRs 15x10 Wheels Rock Sliderz ARB front bumper w/12k winch Custom rear bumper
Re: lower radiator hose collapsing [Re: Scottie2113] #941357 04/20/09 04:29 AM
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years ago I had a Toyo P.U. that did that, cap or thermostat.


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Re: lower radiator hose collapsing [Re: KrzyDav] #941358 04/20/09 04:56 AM
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Make sure the cap is good and it's the correct cap. I went through this a couple months ago. Also, make sure that the overflow line to the catch tank isn't plugged. I spent a week fighting with caps only to figure out (finally) that the line was plugged.

Edward


'97 Montero Sport LS 5-Speed 3.5L conversion
SAS Dana 44s & ARBs, 35" Yoko Geolandar M/Ts
NP231 B4R doubler/Terra Low231/RP 5.38 229:1
'99 Montero Sport Limited 4WD SAS 3-link project
'03 Montero Sport Limited AWD
'97 Montero Sport LS 5-Speed 4WD
Re: lower radiator hose collapsing [Re: ES_97Sport] #941359 04/20/09 05:37 AM
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thanks for all the input so far, but:

it has new mitsu t-stat ordered by using VIN
it has new mitsu cap ordered by using VIN

lastly, I did verify that the tube going from rad neck to overflow bottle is not plugged (I was able to blow air through it easily)

anything else?


97 Montero SR w/Mitsu Adj Shocks & Rear Diff Lock ARB Front Diff Lock 4.9 Ring/Pinion 3.15 transfer box 43:1 crawl ratio 2" suspen lift 2" body lift 2" Gas Tank Lift 35x12.5 MTRs 15x10 Wheels Rock Sliderz ARB front bumper w/12k winch Custom rear bumper
Re: lower radiator hose collapsing [Re: Scottie2113] #941360 04/20/09 05:40 AM
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Mybe defective parts. I like those Stant , oh whatchamacallit, thermostats that are supposed to freeze open if they break...


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'89 Raider V6 5spd;Aisin Hubs;; Gen2 LS: frt. brakes, rear coils;U.C.arms;R.trailing arms;idler arm; rear LSD axle w.disc brakes ;2 battery system for Dog's fan; relocated ECU; custom bumpers;J.Baker receiver;Conferr roofrack; t-bar crank.
Re: lower radiator hose collapsing [Re: KrzyDav] #941361 04/20/09 05:50 AM
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these were all factory mitsu parts brand new ordered by VIN........which one would be the most likely to be defective? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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Re: lower radiator hose collapsing [Re: Scottie2113] #941362 04/20/09 08:12 AM
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Check your hoses Scott. I had the same problem with my Raider. Turns out the rubber was so worn down that they just couldn't hold a shape anymore. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> Also check for clogs in your hoses going to the overflow tank. (just read you already checked for clogs, ignore that) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by StockRaider; 04/20/09 08:14 AM.

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Re: lower radiator hose collapsing [Re: StockRaider] #941363 04/20/09 12:15 PM
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Hey Scottie, does the coolant level in the overflow tank go up when the truck is hot? Did you check the overflow tank lid passages are clear? What about where the overflow tank tube attaches to the rad neck, clear?

I would change the hoses next like Richard suggested.


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Re: lower radiator hose collapsing [Re: Scottie2113] #941364 04/20/09 03:56 PM
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As the fluid cools it creates a slight vacuum. It should pull fluid back in via the overflow.

I'm guessing the hose is so week it's easier to collapse than draw fluid back from the overflow. Replace the hoses both upper and lower. Also check to make sure there is no gunk in the bottom of your overflow preventing the reverse flow.

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Re: lower radiator hose collapsing [Re: LRJ4x4] #941365 04/20/09 04:57 PM
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yes, all passages are clear, no gunk, all the way from bottom of pick up straw to rad neck.

the hose is extremely plyable, maybe it is worn down, after all, it is a 10 year old hose.

I have had a slight issue with air in the cooling system, could a weak hose cause that or would air in the system cause the hose to flatten?

thanks for all the input guys.


97 Montero SR w/Mitsu Adj Shocks & Rear Diff Lock ARB Front Diff Lock 4.9 Ring/Pinion 3.15 transfer box 43:1 crawl ratio 2" suspen lift 2" body lift 2" Gas Tank Lift 35x12.5 MTRs 15x10 Wheels Rock Sliderz ARB front bumper w/12k winch Custom rear bumper
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