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Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: 4ePikanini] #945201 09/16/09 11:17 AM
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FrankR Offline
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What about the sepentine belt tensioner and idler pulleys?

Frank


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Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: FrankR] #945202 09/16/09 11:22 AM
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4ePikanini Offline OP
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I replaced the two pulleys that tensions just below the alternator belt. They are brand new oem parts.

The PS pump belt doesn't have a pulley

The pulley that tensions the A/C pump belt felt really good so I didn't replace that one.

When I remove the the PS pump belt and A/C belt and just leave the alternator/fan belt I still get that noise so it's either the alternator ( it doesn't sound like it though ) or the viscous fan pulley or the brand new cambelt tensioner pulley.

My ear tells me it's the viscous fan pulley.

I'm waiting on a price from the dealer.



Karma's Law - For every action there is a multiplied reaction!
93 Pajero GLS 3.0 V6 LWB - SOLD
2001 Gen3 Di-D LWB - SOLD
2005 Touareg R5 2.5 TDi
Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: 4ePikanini] #945203 09/16/09 11:31 AM
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FrankR Offline
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Take off the serpentine belt and see if you still get the noise - that will tell you if it's the alternator bearings. The fan bracket pulley bearing can and does fail, but it's difficult to determine which of those bearings is making noise.

Frank


'89 [color:"white"]G-Raider[color:"white"] [color:"black"]Supercharged 3.0L, MegaSquirt 2, lockup A/T, 2.5" exhaust, 172k, Cibie H4s/Oscar SCs, Hella Micro DE fogs, Cobra CB, Superwinch hubs, LSD rear/Aussie Locker front, Bilsteins, Lifeline AGM, Rust-Oleum
Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: 4ePikanini] #945204 09/16/09 11:35 AM
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OldColt Offline
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When does it squeal?
I have had a number of alternators that when under load cause a belt squeal. The alternator tests good but needs allot of power to make amps. This shows up most often just after start or when lights come on.
In my experience the fan bracket will have a bearing grumble when bad, I would not expect a sqeal.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: OldColt] #945205 09/16/09 12:04 PM
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4ePikanini Offline OP
Mudrunner
not really a squeel. more like a dry bearing type of sound. It is not load asociated.

Is it OK to run the engine without the alternator belt? If I can do that I can pinpoint it 100%



Karma's Law - For every action there is a multiplied reaction!
93 Pajero GLS 3.0 V6 LWB - SOLD
2001 Gen3 Di-D LWB - SOLD
2005 Touareg R5 2.5 TDi
Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: 4ePikanini] #945206 09/16/09 12:11 PM
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OldColt Offline
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Yes, that engine can run all year long without accessory belts since the waterpump is driven by the cam belt.

A bearing sound sure can be the fan mount, My mighty Max has that noise too.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: OldColt] #945207 09/16/09 12:20 PM
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4ePikanini Offline OP
Mudrunner
i was wondering about pulling the sparking load from the battery as opposed to the alternator bearing the grunt.



Karma's Law - For every action there is a multiplied reaction!
93 Pajero GLS 3.0 V6 LWB - SOLD
2001 Gen3 Di-D LWB - SOLD
2005 Touareg R5 2.5 TDi
Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: 4ePikanini] #945208 09/16/09 01:08 PM
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OldColt Offline
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Just running the engine is not a large power load. The engine should run fine down to around 10 volts, below that the ECU is going out of calibration.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: OldColt] #945209 09/16/09 01:16 PM
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4ePikanini Offline OP
Mudrunner
cool. I'll give it a go later.

Thanks



Karma's Law - For every action there is a multiplied reaction!
93 Pajero GLS 3.0 V6 LWB - SOLD
2001 Gen3 Di-D LWB - SOLD
2005 Touareg R5 2.5 TDi
Re: My Pajero 3.0 V6 rebuild - with pics [Re: 4ePikanini] #945210 09/16/09 02:40 PM
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4ePikanini Offline OP
Mudrunner
dealer wants R3700 + 14% vat

Urghhhh!

Can the bearing be removed and replaced?



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93 Pajero GLS 3.0 V6 LWB - SOLD
2001 Gen3 Di-D LWB - SOLD
2005 Touareg R5 2.5 TDi
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