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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: LandRaider] #946801 06/01/09 08:59 PM
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might as well just weld the rear diff if thats the case, I just can't imagine a lockrite costing less than the axle swap.


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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: zarktheshark] #946802 06/02/09 12:05 AM
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I'm trying to follow along, but think I got lost. I know what a lockrite is (had one in my YJ) and i know about the montero sport axel swap(via this site), but if i'm reading this thread right, the sport axel swap is the aussie locker? Note, my goal in the end is to have rear disk brakes and have an "on road" friendly locker in the rear which is why this thread is very interesting to me. I don't plan on doing much adding of power. I'm ok with going slow:)


The Sport axle swap is a selectable factory air locker. This swap is for 2.6L rear leaf sprung Monteros.

The V6 has coil springs, so for those models you swap in a late model (94-96 perferably) full size Montero SR axle.

So to answer your question the sport swap is not an aussie locker.


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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: zarktheshark] #946803 06/02/09 12:12 AM
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Some Sport rear ends are equipped with factory Mitsubishi air lockers. I assume they are like the SR locker and have rear discs too. You can pick up an entire rear axle for around the price of an aftermarket locker. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: StockRaider] #946804 06/02/09 12:19 AM
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instead of welding the rear or going into an axle swap if you dont want to, just get a gen 1 with a factory LS and swap it. it;s probably the cheapest easiest thing to do without welding your rear.


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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: justice] #946805 06/02/09 12:44 AM
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To add on to what Justice said, the selectable locker is most desirable for the street/off street combination (in my opinion) because you can run fully locked or open whenever you feel the need.

That said, the reason the "lockrite" would be better than a welded diff is that it allows the diff to "ratchet" as the inner and outer wheels turn at different rates through tight turns on a "grippy" surface. There is some benefit in terms of tire wear when the rig is driven on the road a lot. There are also manufacturer recommendations regarding how much power you put to them and their reliability, but with the factory Montero/Raider 2.6, I don't consider that to be much of a concern. So, while this is not a selectable solution, it is a compromise for both uses.

I don't know enough about LSDs to give any type of knowledgable comparison, so I'll leave that to someone else.


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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #946806 06/05/09 11:05 PM
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To add on to what Justice said, the selectable locker is most desirable for the street/off street combination (in my opinion) because you can run fully locked or open whenever you feel the need.

That said, the reason the "lockrite" would be better than a welded diff is that it allows the diff to "ratchet" as the inner and outer wheels turn at different rates through tight turns on a "grippy" surface. There is some benefit in terms of tire wear when the rig is driven on the road a lot. There are also manufacturer recommendations regarding how much power you put to them and their reliability, but with the factory Montero/Raider 2.6, I don't consider that to be much of a concern. So, while this is not a selectable solution, it is a compromise for both uses.

I don't know enough about LSDs to give any type of knowledgable comparison, so I'll leave that to someone else.

What if im going to run a Turbo 2.6 which will be soon I have it one a stand waiting for the day <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Do you think it would be better if I just weld up the rear? I want a locker but the whole rearend swap "Thats if I could find one around here " seems to be alot of work. Has anyone here welded up the spiders?



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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: 87monty] #946807 06/06/09 01:33 AM
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Personally, I think that the rear end swap is less involved than welding in the diff, but don't have first hand experience since I haven't gotten my hands on a rear end yet. If you can find one, I would go with the swap out of a Sport before welding the rear. Just my 2 pennies...


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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: Oyaji_Jon] #946808 06/06/09 07:32 AM
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swapping the rear end is easier than swapping the rear diff, and yes i have welded many diff's I even did a write up on here. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: TOASTY] #946809 06/06/09 12:13 PM
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swapping the rear end is easier than swapping the rear diff, and yes i have welded many diff's I even did a write up on here. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


I guess it also depends on your particular skill set. Of course a diff must be welded sufficiently for it to be reliable. On the other hand by the time you find (IF you can) a leaf spring MS axle WITH a locker, bolts it up, replaced brake components (likely needed), got a pump, wired it all up etc...I would think the difference is trivial. I think there are a few people on here with SR axles bolted up but cannot lock it yet. OK, OK that's further than I've got and I've got 2 lockers <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Gen 1 LockRite Group Buy [Re: Mad_Scientist] #946810 06/06/09 03:58 PM
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If I was going to weld it up this is what I would do.



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