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Re: New kind of lift [Re: DEFBOY35] #947147 05/30/09 04:03 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
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well for a ball joint spacer to work it would have to be about 4-5 inches if u wanted some travel..the balljoint is about maxed out with 4 inches of lift.well here is my idea use the bottom arm mounts to make a whole new set of mounts if it dont make since the pic might help..if anyone has solidworks 05 or older i can post the sprt file too. btw there were no measurements taken this was just taking an idea from paper and making ti a little more 3d
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<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
Re: New kind of lift [Re: k120189] #947148 05/30/09 06:26 PM
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fokion Offline
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Were it is connected to the car??


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Re: New kind of lift [Re: fokion] #947149 05/30/09 06:29 PM
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fokion Offline
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Have you consider the idea instead of using upper and lower arm to use only a lower in a macferson style like the vitaras?????

( Maybe a complete set from a vitara...)


'96 4d mechanicaly stock so far, rims, spoiler, Cooper AT tyres, Factory LSD, Manual Warn Hubs, handmade exaust, ELECTRIC FAN!!! 3,1'' Lift, PALM GPS
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Re: New kind of lift [Re: fokion] #947150 05/30/09 07:17 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
Wheeler
it mounts to the lowers only
and the new upper and lower mounts are built into it


<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
Re: New kind of lift [Re: k120189] #947151 06/15/09 11:08 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
Wheeler
i figured out a way to keep the upper arms where they are. there is a company that makes balljoint extensions but at 300usd a set forget that i have a new idea. it'll take a set of modified upper arms (under 150 for the both) and a small adapter bracket. i'll upload a pic in just a sec. but i gotta get this out before i forget. the upper arm will have the stock joint cut out and a threaded tube welded in. a bushing will then thread into the threaded tube and a small adapter bracket will then bolt onto the knuckle adapting the old balljoint mount into a new bushing mount the upper balljoint will no longer exist or limit travel and the bushing can be adjust for major changes in camber.

EDIT:
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ok there's one part i messed up on the bracket will need to be a little different for this to work but it can and will still work


<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
Re: New kind of lift [Re: k120189] #947152 06/16/09 03:05 PM
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fokion Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Why make it so complicated and not jyst extend the upper ball joint??
( Thats what I am planing anyway..)


'96 4d mechanicaly stock so far, rims, spoiler, Cooper AT tyres, Factory LSD, Manual Warn Hubs, handmade exaust, ELECTRIC FAN!!! 3,1'' Lift, PALM GPS
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Re: New kind of lift [Re: fokion] #947153 06/16/09 03:56 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
Wheeler
two reasons. travel and price. balljoint extensions are hard to find. and u still retain 20ish degrease max misalignment. with the bushing and small bracket it would be cheaper then extensions and allow travel only limited by the strut and lower ball joint. so with a pair or coil overs 15 or so inches of travel is easily obtainable. im not downing extensions. its a good idea. im just after way more travel.


<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
Re: New kind of lift [Re: k120189] #947154 06/16/09 04:15 PM
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fokion Offline
Body Damage is Cool
Have you consider the fact that in a "way more travel" situation, unlike in a solid axle you are narrowing the between the wheels distance???

your center of rotarion of the arm is given your radius is small beeng the length of the arm so after a point, each centimiter of downward travel will jave a huge impact on that distance..

( jyst for arguing purposes only!!!)
Hope this dosent sound much Greek to you
since I dont remember how its called the distance between the two wheels <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )


'96 4d mechanicaly stock so far, rims, spoiler, Cooper AT tyres, Factory LSD, Manual Warn Hubs, handmade exaust, ELECTRIC FAN!!! 3,1'' Lift, PALM GPS
http://members.cardomain.com/fokion
Re: New kind of lift [Re: fokion] #947155 06/16/09 10:26 PM
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k120189 Offline OP
Wheeler
yes i do realize at full drop and full compression the track width(the phrase i think u were looking for) will be less. but thats ok cause im running less off-set in the wheels making it a bunch wider


<a href="www.pittsfieldcustomsclub.com/sportage.html" target="_blank">98 sportage</a>: warn manual hubs,upyourkia spacers, 104 tj springs, 235/75/r15 BFG T/A KO, tracker rims, cone air filter, custom cat-back with a skunk2 muffler. gonna be a 2.3L
Re: New kind of lift [Re: k120189] #947156 06/17/09 02:54 AM
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M
minydigger Offline
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I dont think he was referring to your rims being the problem but the axle shafts. Unless you use some fancy custom shafts that have slip built into them. Just spit ballin here


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