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Re: Intermittent starting issue- almost bald due to pulling hair out!! [Re: busboy] #947904 06/09/09 11:31 PM
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4Crawler Offline
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Thanks for all the assistance Roger! I'll see what I find with the wiring from the switch to the solenoid.
The only thing I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around is the fact that is intermittent. If there is resistance and voltage drop in a specific wire, why is it not constant?


Loose connection perhaps or a wire oxidized up under the insulation and humidity or temperature or whatever causes it to change resistance slightly. On my '85, I would have starter issues when parked on a slight downhill slope. On flat or uphill, no issues at all. I figured instead of trying to find the source it was easier to put in a relay (that only needs 0.1 amps of current to turn on instead of 20 amps) and then that minor resistance issue would become a non-issue.

Re: Intermittent starting issue- almost bald due to pulling hair out!! [Re: 4Crawler] #947905 06/09/09 11:51 PM
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busboy Offline OP
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I agree, if I can't find an obvious connection problem, I will go the relay route. If actually rewiring the source and feed line to the switch is not too bad, I'll go that route.


88'4Runner, 22RE, at, bone stock gutless slug. [b]Need a stock skid plate![b]
Re: Intermittent starting issue- almost bald due to pulling hair out!! [Re: busboy] #947906 06/22/09 08:38 PM
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suba Offline
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I agree with 4crawler, I had a similar problem, spent weeks trying to trace it and in the end spent an hour putting in a relay and haven't had a problem since. By the way, if/when you go the relay route the standard 4 pin universal relays they sell at napa fit perfectly in the fusebox in the engine compartment, makes a clean looking installation.


86 4runner, pro comp AAL, Kayline Soft top, 31's but all stock
Re: Intermittent starting issue- almost bald due to pulling hair out!! [Re: suba] #947907 06/26/09 04:42 PM
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busboy Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Well, after tracing all the wiring and coming up with no obvious evidence or a short, I installed a relay per Roger's recommendation. I cut 4" off wire going to the #50 solenoid terminal and stripped the insulation off to find a nice green corrosion starting from the factory spade terminal and continuing about 3" up into the wire. Needless to say I had some voltage drop due to this corrosion and added resistance. I took susba's advice and installed the relay hidden in the fusebox on the passenger side fender of the engine bay, a nice clean install. I installed a 4 pin, 30amp headlight relay with a 30 amp fuse in line on the wire coming directly from the battery. Works flawlessly every time now, and I no longer have the itch to go buy a new Tacoma crew cab! Thanks for all the help folks! Now onto a timing chain install.


88'4Runner, 22RE, at, bone stock gutless slug. [b]Need a stock skid plate![b]
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