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Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee #949977 06/18/09 01:54 PM
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JorgeA Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Hello guys... After some wheeling I notice that the IFS front suspension do not have enough travel to keep front tires on the floor so I am planing to get rid of the front IFS suspension and install a solid straight front differential.

One choice is a Dana 44 front differential from a XJ Jeep Cherokee.. with the same XJ suspension type (coils and control arms)

Also I would like to replace the rear OEM differential for the same XJ Cherokee rear Dana 44 differential but with coil and control arms suspension.

Any one of you have done this swap or something like that?.. any help and pictures will be appreciate....

Thanks.

JorgeA.

Re: Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee [Re: JorgeA] #949978 06/18/09 05:21 PM
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IIRC it's been done on a Gen I although I don't recall who's done it.

This has also been done on a Montero Sport (ES97Sport) and with other options can be $$$$$$.

All depends on if you're the fabricator or not how expensive it will be. Definitely doable though.


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Re: Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee [Re: JorgeA] #949979 06/18/09 06:13 PM
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May want to check again. Pretty sure the Cheros all came with 30's which is a step backwards as far as durability goes. Even from IFS...


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Re: Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee [Re: JorgeA] #949980 06/18/09 06:15 PM
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I thought they were D30 up front...?


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Re: Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee [Re: JorgeA] #949981 06/18/09 06:20 PM
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desteurm Offline
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I don't think XJ's (Cherokee) or WJ (Grand Cherokee) ever came with a Dana44 front axle. They came with a Dana30 which is similar but has a smaller ring gear.

If you want a dana44 you'll need an early bronco version (driver side drop) and then install chevy outers to get the six bolt pattern.

Or some Jeep TJ's had the optional dana44 front axle but have unit bearings so you would need to convert the rear axle to match the bolt pattern.

Re: Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee [Re: desteurm] #949982 06/18/09 06:36 PM
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JorgeA Offline OP
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Here in the place I live now (Colombia) XJ and ZJ came with Dana 44 front and rear... ensambled in Venezuela... I have un XJ 1999 with those differentials...

JorgeA.

Re: Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee [Re: JorgeA] #949983 06/18/09 06:45 PM
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desteurm Offline
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Well there you go. You will be miles ahead since you are attaching the control arms to a frame instead of the unibody. I would replace the factory control arms with DOM tubing and johnny joints for great strength. Most people are using radius arms or leaf springs for their SAS cause it's easier.

Make sure you run a track bar that is set parallel to your drag link. I would do a simple 3 link + trac bar.

Re: Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee [Re: JorgeA] #949984 06/19/09 04:09 AM
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the IFS front suspension do not have enough travel to keep front tires on the floor so I am planing to get rid of the front IFS suspension.


IFS front suspension? Where's Landraider? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee [Re: JorgeA] #949985 06/19/09 09:46 AM
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Coils front and rear will be more complicated - $$$ - than either a leaf/leaf or leaf/radius arm conversion.

My Sport - other than using Dana 44s - isn't really relevant. Mine's leaf rear/Ford radius arm front.

Other than make sure the front 44 is a HP and that the track bar and drag link is as close to parallel as possible that's it for me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/notooth.gif" alt="" />

Edward


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Re: Gen I - Help for swap IFS front differential to a solid Dana 44 XJ Cherokee [Re: JorgeA] #949986 06/19/09 02:57 PM
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MontyMcV Offline
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Here in the place I live now (Colombia) XJ and ZJ came with Dana 44 front and rear... ensambled in Venezuela... I have un XJ 1999 with those differentials...

JorgeA.


Damn, yet another short-changing of OEM options for the U.S. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/angry.gif" alt="" />


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