thanks angelo. actually the secret to my success was being in the tailrunner position. i learned from everybody else's attempts first. when it was my turn it just looked easy because i knew what not to do. plus a lot of luck too.

roger

91 Montero LS, LWB, 33X12.5X15 BFG MT on 15X8 Rock Crawlers, Budget Lift, Roger Brown 1" body lift, Custom Uwharrie rocker panel dents