Extreme Terrain
4x4Wire Trail Talk Forums: Jeep, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Pajero, Isuzu, Kia, 4WD, 4x4, SUV, Off-Road and OutdoorWire Forums


Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4
Re: Dana 44 gear specs [Re: Angelo] #955278 07/24/09 08:23 AM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,479
StockRaider Offline
Roll Me Over
***
would be nice to go wider, but here in PA, your tires cannot exceed 3 inches past the body even with fender flares. So keeping with the factory width isn't a want its a need.


Richard E
1989 Montero - Stock-ish
1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap.
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5
1983 Honda XL600R
Re: SAS Discussion/Idea Thread: [Re: justice] #955279 07/24/09 08:29 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 8,557
LandRaider Offline
Forum Moderator
*****
Quote
Another concern is with most SAS projects I see is the amount of lift. Is this for clearance of the pumpkin under the oil pan? or personal choice.


My truck run's 36's and they rub SLIGHTLY. I built it to run 35's, but had a chance to get these 36s for cheap, and I like swampers, so....

Quote
I want to keep my rig as low as posssible running a max tire size of 35 on the SWB


You can build it as low, or high as you want to. I do not think the oil pan's are in the way. My 4.3 certainly is not. The sump is behind the axletube, and housing. The problem you're going to run into is that the Gen1 fenderwells arent big enough to "Stuff" 35's or 36's WAY WAY up in there. I could take the 2 inch BL off my truck if the front tire wells were larger, or I put some serious limiting bumpstops in there(I have none:8).

Quote
..It would be nice to have tons of droop....How much travel can one reasonably expect to get with leaves?


I really do not have a way to accurately measure this, BUT you'll obviously get more with coils. You've got to keep in mind though that TOO much droop is not good. You've got the limits of brake lines, driveshafts, steering linkage.. etc to contend with. Some folks have to put limiting straps on their axles to keep them from literally falling out. I've seen some CRAZY stuff happen with home brew coil links. better do your homework if you're going in that direction.

The BEST positive to a Coil setup is this.

You can mount the axle as far forward as you want to have an awesome approach angle, AND you can run as big a tire as you want to.

On a leaf sprung vehicle, the Front leaf mounts will ALWAYS be in front of your tires unless you're running 44's(not realistic for us), and the Springs will Hinder larger tires from turning to full lock. The TSL lugs 36's tickle the leafs when I turn full lock to the left. I would not be able to run ANY tire size larger than this without taking that into consideration.


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: SAS Discussion/Idea Thread: [Re: LandRaider] #955280 07/24/09 02:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 391
dannytuned Offline
Mudrunner
Got my adjustable coil buckets and shock towers from Ballistic Fab.

My specs & pics: http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showf...;amp;page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

Also, on the sports, the front of the frame has a weak spot by the motor mount. ES97Sport had a breakage after a million miles of Colorado wheeling on his swap. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


2001Sport 3.0-Headers-Cage-RoofChop-NP231/D300-D44/ARB-Ford9/Yukon/3Link-37's+H1's-PSC Assist-108:1
Re: SAS Discussion/Idea Thread: [Re: LandRaider] #955281 07/24/09 03:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,186
0778drz110 Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
Quote
Here's LT's almost finished.

I'm about 8 hours into it.
[Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

Maybe you could use these for the less fab skilled? To move the leaf springs outward of the frame.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/frame-outriggers-45-p-251.html
[Linked Image]


Quote
Dont forget the guy in Mexico with the white gen 1 LWB...

Got a link? His was coiled with a dana 30 right??

Quote
Anyone think of running a Yota Tcase behind the auto trans? that way you could use passenger drop Toy axles and retain a close to stock track width??

I want to keep it looking as factory as possible. Another concern is with most SAS projects I see is the amount of lift. Is this for clearance of the pumpkin under the oil pan? or personal choice. I want to keep my rig as low as posssible running a max tire size of 35 on the SWB..It would be nice to have tons of droop....How much travel can one reasonably expect to get with leaves?

All depends on the setup, thats why I've been looking alot into yota springs, they seem to get good droop with leaves. Might want to just go coils for droop though?


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: SAS Discussion/Idea Thread: [Re: 0778drz110] #955282 07/24/09 05:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,186
0778drz110 Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
Landraider, what height lift springs did you use?

It appears, without the 2" BL and slighty low hangers, you got roughly 5-6" lift with those springs.


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: SAS Discussion/Idea Thread: [Re: 0778drz110] #955283 07/24/09 07:19 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 8,557
LandRaider Offline
Forum Moderator
*****
I Bought all 4 Used from a guy. I THINK they are 6 inch YJ Lift springs, but thwy could be 4 inch.


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: SAS Discussion/Idea Thread: [Re: LandRaider] #955284 07/24/09 08:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,186
0778drz110 Offline OP
Body Damage is Cool
Quote
I Bought all 4 Used from a guy. I THINK they are 6 inch YJ Lift springs, but thwy could be 4 inch.

Looks like 2-4" to me

[Linked Image]

these are 6" springs
[Linked Image]
these are 3.5" springs
[Linked Image]
these are 2.5" springs
[Linked Image]
these are stock
[Linked Image]
Picture no worky...
http://www.extremegearoffroad.com/store/product.php?productid=16593&cat=338&page=1


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: SAS Discussion/Idea Thread: [Re: 0778drz110] #955285 07/24/09 10:51 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 8,557
LandRaider Offline
Forum Moderator
*****
Keep in mind those have a vehicle sitting on them too. Lots of weight there.


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: SAS Discussion/Idea Thread: [Re: 0778drz110] #955286 07/24/09 10:55 PM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 8,557
LandRaider Offline
Forum Moderator
*****
[Linked Image]

Stock Wagoneer springs.


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: SAS Discussion/Idea Thread: [Re: LandRaider] #955287 07/25/09 01:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,134
TOASTY Offline
Trail Leader
*****
If you wanted an SAS to be as "stock" as possible you'd want a Early bronco D44 and it's 2 link setup. This is the easiest way to do the swap, it's a little more expensive than the wagoneer swap but once you did it it would be cheap to maintain. I was doing this setup but then changed my mind in favor of using montero 2 link with waggy D44 (having an axle pile is not as cool as it sounds).

LR, yeah LT's is a budget SAS I think he's less than $200 into it ($150 being the D44) and all steel but the rear perches has been scrap metal. I'm gonna run Gen 2 two link up front on mine. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />
and Angelo if someone were to produce a SAS kit it could fit '83-'00 Monteros easily.


1999 Montero SAS'd on Kings and stuff

1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4







4x4Wire Social:

| 4x4Wire on FaceBook |


OutdoorWire, 4x4Wire, JeepWire, TrailTalk, MUIRNet-News, and 4x4Voice are all trademarks and publications of OutdoorWire, Inc. and MUIRNet Consulting.
Copyright (c) 1999-2019 OutdoorWire, Inc and MUIRNet Consulting - All Rights Reserved, no part of this publication may be reproduced in any form without express written permission
You may link freely to this site, but no further use is allowed without the express written permission of the owner of this material.
All corporate trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 7.4.33 Page Time: 0.008s Queries: 15 (0.004s) Memory: 0.6518 MB (Peak: 0.7617 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2026-06-23 21:46:50 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS