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Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
#955591
07/26/09 05:26 AM
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Joined: Jul 2005
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Body Damage is Cool
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Something to consider for those using stock 6" wide rims that do any good amount of wheeling in tight spots. With the stock BS and a narrow tire (9.5 or 10.5) you leave yourself open to a lot more body damage. I will get some pictures posted of the damage on both sides of my truck, but I have learned the hard way wider tires or rims with 3.75"-4" BS do a lot of good to help you keep your truck off of obstacles.
The thing is unless you get wheel spacers you will have to get new rims with a different backspacing (BS) to make the tires stick out a little bit further from the fenders. And at that point if you are investing in new rims you might as well get an 8" wide rim and run some wider tires anyway. You would have to buy a 7" wide rim, and then limit your future options (going wider) so you could be able to run a 9.5" wide tire (also increased risk of popping beads). You could get away with a 10.5" tire on a 8", but it would be interesting airing down to lower PSI ranges/possibly popping beads.
So really unless you just have $$$$ growing on a tree in your back yard if you run skinny tires on stock rims you run a large risk of body damage on any serious wheeling in tight spaces. Pictures of damage to fallow. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" />
Last edited by DRaider90; 07/26/09 05:27 AM.
88 Raider(Red):160k-Reman'd 2.6-5spd-Weber-SW Hubs-34x9.5 TSL-OffRd Pkg-1"Tbar-2"BL-CB 88 Raider(Silver):No 2.6/Bad KM145 Parts/Project 88 Montero(Brown):No 2.6,4.88s Parts/Project [b]4X4 STICKERS,SHIRTS,ETC: 4WD Stickers AT COST.[b]
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Re: Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
[Re: DRaider90]
#955592
07/26/09 06:46 AM
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Joined: Sep 2001
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this is very true. it took me several trashed fenders, and doors to realize this.
Personally i like the look and performance of skinnies, so IF I had to do it all over again, I'd run skinnies with fender guards tied into some rocker protection.
87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1 31's..Basically Stock
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Re: Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
[Re: LandRaider]
#955593
07/26/09 07:53 AM
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Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 91
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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I wheeled 10.5 wide tires on 8" wide rims aired down to 11psi and never popped a bead. I'm now running 12.5 tires on 8" wide rims but I haven't aired them down yet, I probably start with 20psi and see if a bead pops
Eric 89 Raider V6, 35s, 5sp, welded rear, 8k winch 89 Raider 2.6 going on 84 4runner frame
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Re: Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
[Re: SandRaider]
#955594
07/26/09 01:13 PM
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Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,607
Roll Me Over
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I like the look of the skinnies too. They have a more utilitarian look to me.
Your problem Eli is an obsession with TSL's <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> It's pretty easy to find a set of used 33/12.5 muds and a cheap set of used rims. You know that. But then I guess cheap is a relative term.
Did you get much body damage last time we wheeled?
'97 Montero 'LSR' - 4.6 gears & factory rear locker, 33" Procomp muds on 15x8 steelies, 50mm coil spacers, T-bar crank, Airlift, sans rear sway, 50mm rear frame & fuel tank lift, Aisins, ARB front bumper + 10k lb winch, 50mm DIY body lift, rock sliders, cut rear quarter panels...
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Re: Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
[Re: Mad_Scientist]
#955595
07/26/09 01:40 PM
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Joined: Dec 2000
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I have run 11.5 wide tires on 8in and stock 6in rims. Never had a problem with beads. I would think the wider tire on a skinny rim would not pop the bead as easily as a skinny tire on a skinny rim.
I just want to tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.
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Re: Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
[Re: sparkem]
#955596
07/26/09 01:45 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 826
Rock Warrior
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My 11.5's are run on my stocker 7" rim. I have gone down as low as 12psi and pinched em good and not pooped a bead. I am getting 34ltbs here in the next week and will see how they perform on the stock rim for a bit. Will be getting steelies shortly after to put them on.
03 Montero XLS, OME 2"suspension lift,Full skid plates, Extended Diff/transfer breathers. 34 LTB's, Winch w/syn rope, Locked front/rear.
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Re: Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
[Re: icysyrup]
#955597
07/26/09 03:55 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,741
Body Damage is Cool
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i run my 12.5 on my 8" rims all the time down to 8 to 10 psi and have not blown a bead yet.
87 dodge power ram 50,35" tires,5 1/2" total lift,4.6 gears,lockers front and rear,Rancho RS5000's,custom front bumper,custom rock sliders,cct extended diff breathers,75 amp alt(40 amp stock),thorely header,K&N,wheeled hard...
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Re: Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
[Re: icysyrup]
#955598
07/26/09 05:12 PM
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 181
Wheeler
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My 11.5's are run on my stocker 7" rim. I have gone down as low as 12psi and pinched em good and not pooped a bead. I am getting 34ltbs here in the next week and will see how they perform on the stock rim for a bit. Will be getting steelies shortly after to put them on. Well if you don't eat them, they probably won't come out the other end.
1993 Chevy Suburban 2500- Tow Rig
1991 Mitsubishi Montero LS LWB
SR Parts: Rear Axle Coils Trailing Arms Front Calipers and soon to have UCA's and idler arm. Dual Bouncies Air Lift Airbags Aisins 33x12.50x15 Custom Grooved TSL's
Body lift in the near future.
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Re: Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
[Re: ncdieselwrench]
#955599
07/26/09 06:11 PM
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Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 96
Getting the Wheeling Fever
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tires should be wider than rims. a 12.5 tire sits fine on a 8" wheel. bead will not fail. and having a tire stick out isnt going to prevent you from body damage. the more you wheel and the better you get helps prevent it, but if you wheel you get body damage.
88 raider 4.3 about to be parted out.
87 raider 4cy on 32's
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Re: Skinny Tires + Stock BS Rims + Ruts/Highwalls = Not Good
[Re: rolling_down_the_hill]
#955600
07/26/09 07:30 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 826
Rock Warrior
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x2. If you wheel you will get damage....its inevitable. How you wheel is your choice and that is the biggest factor IMO. You can choose to take the trench with roots sticking out of it that will damage or not...you can choose to take the extra 15 minutes or thereabouts to pull cable to get yourself safely around "body damage obstacles". my winch has saved me lots of dents, and I am not ashamed to admit that I want to use it when I might incur damage. I mean...they arent there to "look pretty" on the front of your rig are they?
03 Montero XLS, OME 2"suspension lift,Full skid plates, Extended Diff/transfer breathers. 34 LTB's, Winch w/syn rope, Locked front/rear.
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