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Good summary of the Obamacare #956534 08/01/09 12:01 AM
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bkg Offline OP
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http://www.liberty.edu/media/9980/attachments/healthcare_overview_obama_072909.pdf

I highly recommend reading if you care about your health.


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Re: Good summary of the Obamacare [Re: bkg] #956535 08/01/09 06:00 PM
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<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> It's worse than I thought. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />

Re: Good summary of the Obamacare [Re: stony-man] #956536 08/01/09 06:17 PM
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Bring on the revolution! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Good summary of the Obamacare [Re: cmonty72] #956537 08/03/09 06:10 PM
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bkg Offline OP
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Revolution won't happen for a few years. But this healthcare bill is crap beyond recognition. And the fact that 90% of your congress hasn't read it is beyond pathetic. Obama is a liar - ironic, eh?


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Re: Good summary of the Obamacare [Re: bkg] #956538 08/03/09 06:49 PM
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motero Offline
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Thanks for posting this, I think I am going to have nightmares or go crazy and start getting really mad at politicians.


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Re: Good summary of the Obamacare [Re: motero] #956539 08/03/09 10:23 PM
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Careful(censor) what you joke(tell the truth) about online because I predict Americans(good hard working folks) being treated(arrested/detained) as enemy combatants(disagree with current administration) because they want the constitution (law) enforced. Things(evidence against you) will be in print and taken out of context to build a case(railroad) against you. Then Fox news(F-ing joke) will do a story(smear campain) on you and how you are part of a domestic terrorism group (non-violent protester) when really all you wanted was to be free (not be taxed into poverty). <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />



Just saying. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/patriot.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by cmonty72; 08/03/09 10:28 PM.

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Re: Good summary of the Obamacare [Re: cmonty72] #956540 08/04/09 02:28 PM
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From what I've seen, Fox would be less likely to make you look like something you're not than MSN, CNN, etc...just from watching the Tea Party coverage...the rest of your comments I agree with...unfortunately. Sad days. I watched Grapes of Wrath the other day...so I'm bummed on our society right now. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

Re: Good summary of the Obamacare [Re: stony-man] #956541 08/16/09 12:41 PM
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FrankR Offline
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Here's a backgrounder on the origin of Medicare and the deliberately calculated incremental approach to government takeover of medical apportionment and entitlemant that began under Rossevelt in 1934:

Cato Journal

Frank


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Re: Good summary of the Obamacare [Re: FrankR] #956542 08/16/09 06:11 PM
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>>>*I think it is interesting to watch the fact that when the people get stirred up enough, government actually will back pedal.

Spending a trillion or so here and a trillion or so there fussed up a lot of people, then having done so well at getting whatever this President wanted, he went for the "Health Care" deal, which looked to this old man like a "Control people though Health Care."

Obama started out saying he "Wanted this bill on his desk BEFORE the August break." that is word for word. In other words, quickly before the people can react.

*Didn't work from what I am seeing.

Now we see him back pedalling so fast that all we can see are his heels.

The proposal is close to dead on arrival, something about politicians realizing votes are heading elsewhere every time they open their mouth.

There will very likely be a bill of some kind, I suspect it will be MUCH watered down.

Then Mr. Obama can proclaim great success, and move on to some other "crisis.".....Just my opinion, I see the HCB as not going anywhere as proposed....*EB


*Beats the he** outa me!....*LOL**...
Re: Good summary of the Obamacare [Re: engnbldr] #956543 08/16/09 06:58 PM
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FrankR Offline
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EB, I agree - and here's the first crack in the administration's assault:

Public Option Abandoned

Now, the folks just need to keep up the attack on the whole idea of further government experimentation with socialism. We have more than enough already.

Politicians have increasingly proven themselves unworthy of trust with the public wallet - and the tipping point has been reached. Let's hope for a complete smackdown in the next election.... perhaps driven by a reduction of federal programs in general. If we can't trust them with money, the only solution appears to be to take the money away from them.

Frank

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