John HD pads are harder than the cheap soft ones we are talking about. The HD ones are great after they heat up, such as a paved race track where the brakes are used over and over for hours. However the very first use of the pads when they are "cold" doesn't have the stopping power that offroaders might need.

So Sean and I are talking about the cheap ones that wear out quicker and need replaced more often, but stop the Jeep better, particularly if it has tall tires on it.

Around here I can do the front of a Jeep for bout $125. Or maybe a bit less...all new parts with warranty. So I just throw the used parts away or trade them in and go new every time.

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