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I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
#962581
09/09/09 10:53 PM
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Joined: Mar 2003
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Last night I started on UCA project My idea was to crank the bars untill the front upper bump stop made contact,,,then swap the arms. Then I went in to read my FSM for the directions on T-bars. It said losen the bars all the way before changing UCAs. So if I don't follow directions ( I try not to) will I not be able to get it apart ,or have something spring up and break my jaw???
I'd wanted to this measurement to make both sides equal as my fenders are not real good to gauge a measurement from.
dave h. '89 Raider V6 5spd;Aisin Hubs;; Gen2 LS: frt. brakes, rear coils;U.C.arms;R.trailing arms;idler arm; rear LSD axle w.disc brakes ;2 battery system for Dog's fan; relocated ECU; custom bumpers;J.Baker receiver;Conferr roofrack; t-bar crank.
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Re: I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
[Re: KrzyDav]
#962582
09/09/09 11:58 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
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I pulled a Tbar with full tension still on it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> after my ears stopped ringing I put it back and never touched them again after reindexing the bars. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" />
Last edited by StockRaider; 09/09/09 11:58 PM.
Richard E 1989 Montero - Stock-ish 1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap. 1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5 1983 Honda XL600R
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Re: I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
[Re: StockRaider]
#962583
09/10/09 12:06 AM
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I pulled a Tbar with full tension still on it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> after my ears stopped ringing I put it back and never touched them again after reindexing the bars. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" /> how did you pull it with full tension still on it.you have to let the tension off to pull our t-bars....you have to let the adjusting bolt down to pull it witch lets the tension off.
87 dodge power ram 50,35" tires,5 1/2" total lift,4.6 gears,lockers front and rear,Rancho RS5000's,custom front bumper,custom rock sliders,cct extended diff breathers,75 amp alt(40 amp stock),thorely header,K&N,wheeled hard...
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Re: I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
[Re: powerRam50]
#962584
09/10/09 02:32 AM
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Wheeler
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The TB's are connected to the lower control arm, so changing the UCA'a should not require loosenning the TB's. I've done it both ways and either will work.
With the car on jack stands, use a floor jack under the lower control arm and raise it so as to get UCA disconnected and reconnected.
Then crank your TB's.
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Re: I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
[Re: powerRam50]
#962585
09/10/09 02:53 AM
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I pulled a Tbar with full tension still on it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> after my ears stopped ringing I put it back and never touched them again after reindexing the bars. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" /> how did you pull it with full tension still on it.you have to let the tension off to pull our t-bars....you have to let the adjusting bolt down to pull it witch lets the tension off. I won't tell you to try it. But it was one of my early day screw ups. I removed the bolt and tapped the bar with the hammer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
Richard E 1989 Montero - Stock-ish 1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap. 1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5 1983 Honda XL600R
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Re: I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
[Re: StockRaider]
#962586
09/10/09 04:37 AM
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I pulled a Tbar with full tension still on it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> after my ears stopped ringing I put it back and never touched them again after reindexing the bars. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" /> how did you pull it with full tension still on it.you have to let the tension off to pull our t-bars....you have to let the adjusting bolt down to pull it witch lets the tension off. I won't tell you to try it. But it was one of my early day screw ups. I removed the bolt and tapped the bar with the hammer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> Think thats bad, one of my torsion bar hanger bolts was stripped started undoing it, the tension unwound stripped the threads all off and nicked me (emphasis on nicked) in the babymaker juice area <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> That was an experience
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Re: I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
[Re: StockRaider]
#962587
09/10/09 05:22 AM
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I pulled a Tbar with full tension still on it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> after my ears stopped ringing I put it back and never touched them again after reindexing the bars. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/baby.gif" alt="" /> how did you pull it with full tension still on it.you have to let the tension off to pull our t-bars....you have to let the adjusting bolt down to pull it witch lets the tension off. I won't tell you to try it. But it was one of my early day screw ups. I removed the bolt and tapped the bar with the hammer. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> HOLY SH#$T ...I've cut the bolt with a torch ..But I knew it was coming .. Goes off like a bomb doent it ...
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Re: I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
[Re: 1986powerram50]
#962588
09/10/09 05:28 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
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tension unwound stripped the threads all off and nicked me (emphasis on nicked) in the babymaker juice area That was an experience haha, I thought it was bad the other day when I was tossing around my multi tool and the handle tapped one of the boys. I lost muscle control for about 5 mins... sat in my chair stupified. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />
Richard E 1989 Montero - Stock-ish 1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap. 1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5 1983 Honda XL600R
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Re: I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
[Re: StockRaider]
#962589
09/10/09 06:28 AM
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Thanks for all the horror stories. I don't feel so bad now, I though I was the only one that had accidents <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> . Not sure if I'm gonna be able to work anymore tonight after reading this, the boys are hiding. On the lighter side , how far can you crank the bars without making it undrivable or breaking something. I know this has been discussed here and there and somewhere else on here,,,but some suggestion on my situation would be appreciated. Mines is also a D.D., no crawling , bad roads deep snow...way far back of beyond camping... I'm just trying to even it out some because of the OME 910s on this SWB. I've already trimmed the gen 2 bump stops so at this late hour I'm not really sure what to measure from. I think as goofy as I've been lately I'm gonna losen the tension on those T- bars.
Last edited by KrzyDav; 09/10/09 06:40 AM.
dave h. '89 Raider V6 5spd;Aisin Hubs;; Gen2 LS: frt. brakes, rear coils;U.C.arms;R.trailing arms;idler arm; rear LSD axle w.disc brakes ;2 battery system for Dog's fan; relocated ECU; custom bumpers;J.Baker receiver;Conferr roofrack; t-bar crank.
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Re: I have a question on installing my Gen2 upper control arms.
[Re: KrzyDav]
#962590
09/10/09 12:14 PM
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Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 40
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Hello
I'm in the middle of changing Gen II UCA
So far so good, no injuries.
But I loosend the T-bars complitly before undoing the old UCA
The plan is to adjust them to the back end with LWB leafs (the truck is SWB)
So to my question
How many shims do you guys normaly put in to get the camber to about 0?
Last edited by Thoma_s; 09/10/09 12:15 PM.
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