I stand by my F* Obama post... I should of maybe said F* the gov in this situation though. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I feel they could of done some things a bit better, maybe have the C4C program send all vehicles of any quality to local charities. I feel a lot of those "clunkers" could of been appreciated by family's for years who really could use them. Maybe for people who have nicer cars that don't use them anymore could get a equal value tax incentive for giving their old car to charity, and bypass the requirement of sending people into new debt.