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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Rate Thread Page 1 of 2 1 2 Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? #964510 09/23/09 01:16 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 63 Lancaster Pa StarquestRescue OP Getting the Wheeling Fever Could the proportioning vavle be eliminated or would it need to be replaced with a manual one? I have a v6 booster to go on also, but it is not clear to me if the v6 master cylinder is required or is also considered an upgrade. Mits owner since 1980 88 Power Ram 50 turbo intercooled. Sport cab auto 4.22 gears rear posi. Rust in peace. Re: Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? [Re: StarquestRescue] #964511 09/23/09 01:29 AM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,649 Helen , GA fasteddy Web Wheeler Trucks with the light butt really need the prop valve. I'd use the stock d-50 one. I'd put the v6 m/c on before the booster... Not responsible for advice not taken... Re: Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? [Re: fasteddy] #964512 09/23/09 01:49 AM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Kansas 1 1986powerram50 Rock Warrior Ive talked to guys that have replaced the stocker for a tunable one, they say the stopping ability is way better. I need to find a V6 brake booster for my lil 2wd --keRby Ad Inexplorta Re: Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? [Re: fasteddy] #964513 09/23/09 09:23 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 63 Lancaster Pa StarquestRescue OP Getting the Wheeling Fever Quote Trucks with the light butt really need the prop valve. I'd use the stock d-50 one. I'd put the v6 m/c on before the booster... The truck is a long bed with a heavy quad tube class 3 bumper hitch. I already have a master for a 90 v6 montero. But before i got the combo on The stock master went out right before a trip and i put another stock one on rather than open a can of worms in the dead of winter. I think the stock 87 on 4cly truck master is already bigger than the ones they put on the older 4cly monteros? Mits owner since 1980 88 Power Ram 50 turbo intercooled. Sport cab auto 4.22 gears rear posi. Rust in peace. Re: Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? [Re: StarquestRescue] #964514 09/23/09 12:38 PM Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,712 East Wallyworld Vermont OldColt Roll Me Over I take it the 87 does not have rear lockup control? My 93 2wd does not but the 94 4wd does. Keep in mind the front brake line runs through the rear proportioning valve so that needs to be routed directly. If you do run without a prop valve and get some rear brake lockup then swap in the 2nd gen front calipers, that should give enough increase in front brakes to do the job. Even a set of grippier front pads may be enough. I run Hawk HPS pads on my 94 MM and 95 SR. Allot more grip than what the trucks came with. Cheers, Charlie If It ain't broke, Modify it! 87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989 95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one? 93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension. Re: Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? [Re: StarquestRescue] #964515 09/23/09 03:03 PM Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,712 East Wallyworld Vermont OldColt Roll Me Over Oh sure, I need to move some stuff between shops this morning and a brakeline springs a leak right by the leaf spring perch on my MM. Cheers, Charlie If It ain't broke, Modify it! 87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989 95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one? 93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension. Re: Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? [Re: StarquestRescue] #964516 09/24/09 12:26 PM Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,622 Brookfield, WI NathanC Roll Me Over I replaced the original proportioning valve on my old MM with a manual one under the hood. I replaced all the brake lines when I had the body off the frame and the old valve was frozen. My motive for going manual was $$$ not that I thought I knew better than the engineers that designed the system. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> Once I had the manual valve dialed in with the V6 brake components, it did great w/ 33s. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> '06 Dakota QC 4.7 6sp 4x4 '88 Mighty Max '77 KZ1000 fun old bike Re: Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? [Re: OldColt] #964517 09/24/09 12:27 PM Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,622 Brookfield, WI NathanC Roll Me Over Quote Oh sure, I need to move some stuff between shops this morning and a brakeline springs a leak right by the leaf spring perch on my MM. IMO, that's the worst area for rust on these trucks. That's where the frames rot too. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> '06 Dakota QC 4.7 6sp 4x4 '88 Mighty Max '77 KZ1000 fun old bike Re: Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? [Re: NathanC] #964518 09/25/09 03:35 AM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 985 Kansas 1 1986powerram50 Rock Warrior Quote Quote Oh sure, I need to move some stuff between shops this morning and a brakeline springs a leak right by the leaf spring perch on my MM. IMO, that's the worst area for rust on these trucks. That's where the frames rot too. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> Never seen/heard a MM frame rust very much before. My 91 3.0 spent atleast a few years in Utah. Lil flaking but not much. Now my 95 SR spent its whole life in northern KS has as much frame rust as my 91 MM --keRby Ad Inexplorta Re: Metal brake line replacement on 87 Ram 50 4x4? [Re: 1986powerram50] #964519 09/26/09 03:18 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 63 Lancaster Pa StarquestRescue OP Getting the Wheeling Fever How do you guys feel about brass fittings? A lot of the unions and adapters are sold in brass. Quote I replaced the original proportioning valve on my old MM with a manual one under the hood. I replaced all the brake lines when I had the body off the frame and the old valve was frozen. My motive for going manual was $$$ not that I thought I knew better than the engineers that designed the system. Yea, i wonder if mine is even working. And if it spring a leak where am i going to get one quick. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Quote Never seen/heard a MM frame rust very much before. My blue 87 that came from Vermont broke in half when the loader carried it back through the j/k yard. Rip. Do not worry it was stripped hard. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Mits owner since 1980 88 Power Ram 50 turbo intercooled. Sport cab auto 4.22 gears rear posi. Rust in peace. 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