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Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: TOASTY] #965684 10/01/09 01:53 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 244
CNY
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300D50 Offline
Wheeler
Where is the taper on these?
Is it on the OD of the spacer?

Kinda confused on that... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

1989 Dodge Power Ram 50 w/ no engine <- rotten frame <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
1988 Power Ram 50 2.6 Long Bed
1990 Mitsubishi MightyMax V6, swapping to the Daimler-Benz OM617 3.0L I5 diesel
Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: 300D50] #965685 10/01/09 02:35 AM
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Posts: 553
Vancouver, BC, Canada
jfarsang Offline OP
Rock Warrior
Alex, I've never had a CV blow, nor have had any issues with excessive front-end wear with these installed.

The hardware they come with are M10 / Grade 8 bolts.

Taper is built to offset the camber = keep your arm and balljoint lined up.

You can see on the right one (pic below) the taper angle that is cut from the inner (thick) to the outer (thin)

[Linked Image]

If the taper is not there and it's a solid 1" thick piece of block, then you'll get the effect that Alex and Toasty are referring to.

I've experimented with 12 different blocks ranging from .25 - 1.25 inches and different tapered angles.

The one that we put through the machine shop and what we are selling are the one's that work.

Thickest point is .9" and is tapered down to .80"

So between 7/8 and 3/4 ". A full 1" spacer will not work within the stock means for longevity.

I have 45,000 miles on one Montero with them on and 21,000 miles on the other.

This is as a daily driver for hers and mine we used as an expedition rig down to Mex, back, across Canada, etc... logged on ton of pavement and offpavent miles.

No hard rock crawling, but some good offroading, winching, etc...

They work, otherwise there is no way I would be selling them, let alone giving them away.

... good.. bad.. I'm the guy with the gun.

94 Spacegear 2.8 - Build is on
89 Montero - Project
92 Pajero Exceed - Gone to a good home
92 Delica Chamonix - Gone to a good home
Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: jfarsang] #965686 10/01/09 03:01 AM
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Posts: 1,513
Fl Sarasota area
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sasnydley Offline
Body Damage is Cool
1st I want to see pic on a truck! Then I want to know how I get a set! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

1990 Black Monty LS Over 300K' 1993 Isuzu Rodeo LS 4x4 46k (yes only 46K!)1989 Honda Transalp 600 Africa twin,
Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: sasnydley] #965687 10/01/09 03:40 AM
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Gilbert AZ, US.
TOASTY Offline
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Looks like you did your homework <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />

1999 Montero SAS'd on Kings and stuff

1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: TOASTY] #965688 10/01/09 03:48 AM
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springfield,oregon
powerRam50 Offline
Body Damage is Cool
when i upgrade to gen 2 arms next year i will probaly want a set of those spacers.see if i can stuff some 37's.

87 dodge power ram 50,35" tires,5 1/2" total lift,4.6 gears,lockers front and rear,Rancho RS5000's,custom front bumper,custom rock sliders,cct extended diff breathers,75 amp alt(40 amp stock),thorely header,K&N,wheeled hard...
Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: TOASTY] #965689 10/01/09 03:53 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 244
CNY
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300D50 Offline
Wheeler
Ah, makes sense now.

Gives me a new appreciation for the engineering that goes into a modern day suspension.

1989 Dodge Power Ram 50 w/ no engine <- rotten frame <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
1988 Power Ram 50 2.6 Long Bed
1990 Mitsubishi MightyMax V6, swapping to the Daimler-Benz OM617 3.0L I5 diesel
Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: powerRam50] #965690 10/01/09 03:59 AM
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Gilbert AZ, US.
TOASTY Offline
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when i upgrade to gen 2 arms next year i will probaly want a set of those spacers.see if i can stuff some 38's.


Fixed that for ya

1999 Montero SAS'd on Kings and stuff

1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: TOASTY] #965691 10/01/09 04:08 AM
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Fl Sarasota area
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sasnydley Offline
Body Damage is Cool
These are only for gen2 monteros? What is the difference between gen 1 and gen 2 ball joints? I know people upgrade to the gen to A-arms but I don't have a clue what different between the 2? I tried to do a search-several- Could not dig up the answer. I'm just hoping there is a way that these would work on my truck... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" />

1990 Black Monty LS Over 300K' 1993 Isuzu Rodeo LS 4x4 46k (yes only 46K!)1989 Honda Transalp 600 Africa twin,
Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: sasnydley] #965692 10/01/09 04:57 AM
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Gilbert AZ, US.
TOASTY Offline
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gen 2's are longer with bolt on balljoints and gen 1's are short with pressed in ball joints.

1999 Montero SAS'd on Kings and stuff

1998 Montero trying to get a V8 Swapped
Re: Balljoint spacers [Re: TOASTY] #965693 10/01/09 01:59 PM
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springfield,oregon
powerRam50 Offline
Body Damage is Cool
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gen 2's are longer with bolt on balljoints and gen 1's are short with pressed in ball joints.


gen 2 arms are a bit more beefy also,and with alot of t bar crank they could help cv angles becouse of the length.

87 dodge power ram 50,35" tires,5 1/2" total lift,4.6 gears,lockers front and rear,Rancho RS5000's,custom front bumper,custom rock sliders,cct extended diff breathers,75 amp alt(40 amp stock),thorely header,K&N,wheeled hard...
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