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Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: Mudraider] #970456 11/14/09 12:58 AM
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???? did you even read it? Its posted 4th on this page...


'88 Raider, 33" Maxxis, 2" body lift, 10K winch
Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: 0778drz110] #970457 11/14/09 03:58 AM
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yes I read that. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> The spring guy wants the curve measurement so he knows how much arch to put in it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


89 SWB, V-6 5SPD, OME Shocks, 16.5X37's, 2"BL, SR axle, Gen2 brakes, Lincoln w/Superwinch
Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: Mudraider] #970458 11/15/09 01:47 AM
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You have a 2.6, go outside! Don't forget a tape measure and a piece of string! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: 0778drz110] #970459 11/16/09 02:47 PM
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WOw, you aren't listening. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/mrt.gif" alt="" /> Stop the jibber jabber. I don't care what the spring length is. I need the spring arch measurement. There was no listing for the Raider/Montero application, so he didn't know how much arch to put in them. Two inches' 4" 10", he could bend them in i friggin horseshoe he said. I need the spring arch measurement, not the eye-to-eye measurement. BTW, why get used spring from something, especially something older than your truck, to put in there without getting them re-arched? Putting older springs in there , isn't that just an invitation to sagging and different heights in the back?


89 SWB, V-6 5SPD, OME Shocks, 16.5X37's, 2"BL, SR axle, Gen2 brakes, Lincoln w/Superwinch
Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: Mudraider] #970460 11/16/09 07:14 PM
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tie the string eye-to-eye then measure from the middle of the string down to the spring...only a few inches


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Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: 0778drz110] #970461 11/16/09 10:14 PM
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Not mine. things are literally flat as a board. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


89 SWB, V-6 5SPD, OME Shocks, 16.5X37's, 2"BL, SR axle, Gen2 brakes, Lincoln w/Superwinch
Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: 0778drz110] #970462 11/16/09 10:58 PM
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tie the string eye-to-eye then measure from the middle of the string down to the spring...only a few inches


I think MudRaider is trying to find the factory arch measurements. Since his springs have lost their arch, measuring them will not be useful. Someone on here must know <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: Mad_Scientist] #970463 11/16/09 11:59 PM
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tie the string eye-to-eye then measure from the middle of the string down to the spring...only a few inches


I think MudRaider is trying to find the factory arch measurements. Since his springs have lost their arch, measuring them will not be useful. Someone on here must know <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />


I can check mine tonight but they are on the truck and under load, so they would probably measure flatter than brand new springs. I posted up my measurements for the OP since he asked what other springs are similar or close to stock.

Z


Do you think the average stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms.


87 Raider TSI
84 K5, 350/700R4,36" TSLs, spooled fr/rr
74 VW Bug- volksrod project
68 VW Fastback, 2L T4 powered
Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: CwnAnwyn] #970464 11/17/09 04:11 AM
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I found this info in the manual that is posted in the Adobe format. I found these specs but don't quite understand what they mean. Is the "camber unladen" specification here the arch listing that I'm looking for? I'll have to type it out, can't figure out how to cut and paste off an Adobe sheet.
Suspension System Asymmetrical semielliptical leaf springs
Leaf Springs 4
straight span mm (in) 1196.5-1,203.5 (47.106-47.382)
Camber (unladen) mm(in) 72.5-83.5 9(2.854-3.287)
Spring Constant N/mm (lbs/in)
-as installed
at load of 1,000-2,500N (220-551lbs) 24(134)
at load of 5,500-8,500N (1,213-1,874lbs) 56(314)

I'm going to ask the spring man what he thinks, and hopefully that will be what I need. I put the Summit Shackles on, and it basically levelled my Raider out.


89 SWB, V-6 5SPD, OME Shocks, 16.5X37's, 2"BL, SR axle, Gen2 brakes, Lincoln w/Superwinch
Re: Rear leafs flat as a board. [Re: Mudraider] #970465 11/17/09 05:50 PM
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"straight span mm (in) 1196.5-1,203.5 (47.106-47.382)"

is the distance eye to eye (string method mentioned earlier) of a stock new spring. You want the measurement from that string down to the center pin of your spring pack. I can check to see if my mounted spring dimensions (eye to eye) are the same as the straight span, and then I can measure to the center pin. But if I had to guess I think my measurement would be a little off since the springs are still on the truck and under tension.

If you had one of yours off the truck you could see how far off it is compared to the straight span measurement.

Z


Do you think the average stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms.


87 Raider TSI
84 K5, 350/700R4,36" TSLs, spooled fr/rr
74 VW Bug- volksrod project
68 VW Fastback, 2L T4 powered
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