Frank your freakin me out - you're sounding in complete harmony with Ron Paul
Phil, I said long ago here that I was in agreement with a lot - but not all - of what Ron Paul spews. The main problem I have with him is that he comes off like a whining wuss and is completely unelectable for a national office..... so aside from getting folks to consider more than the surface debate (which is important and useful), much of what he accomplishes is draining off votes that would otherwise go elsewhere..... or creating apathy that diminishes voter turnout for conservative candidates. He's a fine example of a 2-edged sword.
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As if ANYTHING would be different if McCain got elected. That's what's gotta make Obama so infuriating to Democrats. At least the few Democrats that have their kitten eyes just now starting to pop open.
Obama is just as much for war as McCain was. And why wouldn't he be? Both candidates were supported by the same people and the same interests. And I highly doubt there's any major issue Obama is pushing for or supports that McCain wouldn't either be all for, or would at least only give the most token resistence too.
Sort of like Bush would have signed a new Assault Weapons ban if it was put on his desk, but...he didn't "really" want to. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
When you voted in the last election, the only "change" was which political spectrum was going to get hookwinked this time around. In this case, it's the Democrats now getting taken for a ride. Having elected a President to stop the war, and now finding how he loves war and he loves detaining people illegally and he loves spying on Americans. Just as much or more than Bush did.
It's time to get an actual intellectual in office and not a freaking spokesperson for the globalists. When you elect actors, screwoffs, college drunks and playboys to the highest office in the land, do you honestly expect to have good decisions made?
Of course not. These guys were always intended be nothing more then yes men to the elite. That's why stupid men are put up there for you to choose from, instead of statesmen and schollars and men of serious intelligence like those that founded this country.
In any case...Ron Pual is a just a man and an old one at that. He's reached the peak of his career and probably doesn't have many years left, so I wouldn't hang my hat on the guy anyway. But he has started one of the most important political movements in our lifetime, as far as I'm concerned and hopefully it will continue to grow.
Yes, that probably means draining precious resources from the Republican party. As far as I'm concerned, the Republican party is one of the most evil traderious organizations that ever existed. At least with Democrats, I know what I'm getting. The Republicans pretended to care about this country, then sent men off to die for a lost cause that wasn't even just in the first place. They sold out this country to a communist nation that is now poised to unseat us as the most powerful single nation on earth...if they haven't already and they sold us out in many other countless ways.
They couldn't even hold true to their most basic party platform, when they held total power for a good 6 years.
In the end, realizing that both parties are really just a single party is probably the best way way to describe our situation and why it's so important that a 3rd party or a seperate movement be born out of that system. If the Republicans lose power and die off, I couldn't be happier and assuming the Democrats survived as a party, at least they'd have someone standing up against them.
