oh btw, we should be getting snow in a couple weeks so I'll try to keep in mind to take a picture of the chains and clearance of the rear shocks. Police will not bother you about chains/cables on the highway if you have 30" of SNOW on the street. It was so bad the plows weren't up and running till about 2pm! There was no were to put it all, lol. it was great! Hope it happens again too >:D