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Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: LandRaider] #974052 12/03/09 09:02 PM
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OT here,
The Welder is a 1994 Miller Syncrowave 250. The circuit board is PN 138307 and has now been repaired at York Electronics a few times.
The visual damage was to a resistor and at least one 14 pin IC. York socketed all the IC locations and mass replaced them. I have no clue if or how they test the boards. I am not sure they do test them. For $300+ I could have replaced the $20 worth of ICs myself. At this time the contactor closes but there is no output. The welder did run intermittently for ¢ hr after the first time they had the board. Whenever the machine is set to remote control the High frequency is active. The local welder repair guy just says I told you so about board remans and will not come by to diagnose the welder. I think circuit board remans are in the same class as engine remans. Replace all and hope.
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Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: OldColt] #974053 12/03/09 10:59 PM
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I think circuit board remans are in the same class as engine remans. Replace all and hope.


Not always. If the components can be gotten, I can certainly replace them. If they're common items, I prob already have them in stock.

If you want to mail it to me, I will see what I can do. Worst case scenario, I replace a buncha stuff, and it doesnt work, and you're out shipping. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


87 Raider 4D56td v5MT1
31's..Basically Stock
Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: LandRaider] #974054 12/03/09 11:00 PM
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I bet it I replace the smoked components, it will work great. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: LandRaider] #974055 12/03/09 11:40 PM
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Here is a pic of the board taken minutes ago,
Everything was socketed by York, most of the IC are LF347H

[Linked Image]

I can ship this down to you tomorrow. I do want to spend some time inside the welder to see if there could be anything else that could be an issue.
Heck the shop is still warm since I just finished welding on a Land Rover chassis so maybe I will go back down there.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: OldColt] #974056 12/04/09 01:38 AM
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being a guy who did board repair for a living on a military base that board looks easily fixable. just a few board mount resistors and thru mount caps nothing to throw the board out over. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


Richard E
1989 Montero - Stock-ish
1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap.
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5
1983 Honda XL600R
Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: StockRaider] #974057 12/04/09 02:23 AM
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This is just a simple two layer board. Looking at it right now I question the quality of some of the solder joints the repair company did.


Cheers, Charlie
If It ain't broke, Modify it!
87 Montero turbo Converted back in Spring1989
95 Montero SR 3.8 DOHC Only one?
93 Pajero 3 door 6G75 Mivec with paddle shifted 5 speed
Then a Gen2 SR with full coil independent suspension.
Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: OldColt] #974058 12/04/09 02:36 AM
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Believe me, I worked with people who are 30 year experience for the federal employed side and they knew nothing about soldering and they did it for a living... I find its either you can or you can't when it comes down to it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> People also tend to not clean flux up after soldering too <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />

/rant


Richard E
1989 Montero - Stock-ish
1989 V6 Auto Raider - 5.3 Vortech Swap.
1987 Mitsubishi Starion 2.6t, soon to be 3.5
1983 Honda XL600R
Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: OldColt] #974059 12/04/09 03:14 AM
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I hope you guys can get Charlie's board fixed up 'cuz I'm definitely down for a couple tanks depending on final cost. Good luck with the fix! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" />


'88 Raider 2.6L - SW Hubs, Weber 32/36, Off-road Pkg - Dead
'88 Monty 2.7L - 5" Lift, Weber 38, 33's, Dual Fans, Dual bouncy (more goodies to install) - Still Kicking.
'03 Monty Sport - XLS, BFG A/T's - Dead
Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: shadowgear] #974060 12/04/09 07:29 PM
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Just wondering, but are baffles inside the tank needed to keep all that gas from sloshing around? Edit (just re-read and see baffles are in there)

Last edited by zarktheshark; 12/04/09 07:32 PM.

'88 Raider. 2.6L dead...2.4L swap in progress, AT, 33's, 2 bouncy seat,AC, CC, 2.25 exh, 2" Tbar, 2" BL, rear DB, rear LSD,4.90's, SW hubs,gen2 uca's, KYB shocks, snorkel, elec fan, MSD.

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'15 Subaru XV
'03 BMW i325
Re: Is there a bigger gast tank for the Gen 1's that is a bolt in? [Re: zarktheshark] #974061 12/04/09 07:34 PM
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couldn't tell from the pics, but where did you re-route your exhaust to?


'88 Raider. 2.6L dead...2.4L swap in progress, AT, 33's, 2 bouncy seat,AC, CC, 2.25 exh, 2" Tbar, 2" BL, rear DB, rear LSD,4.90's, SW hubs,gen2 uca's, KYB shocks, snorkel, elec fan, MSD.

'99 chev k3500 crewcab
'15 Subaru XV
'03 BMW i325
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