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Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: kewlynx] #974379 12/01/09 04:14 AM
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(3) Vehicle owners are mailed a letter asking them to participate in a voluntary vehicle repair program.


<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> I want to see what this looks like!! hahaha.. Volunteer to fix your car or you don't have it anymore!


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Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: 87Montero] #974380 12/01/09 05:20 AM
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It's just a excuse to round up "undesirables" The ole "driving while brown or black". It hits the people who can least afford it during these hard economic times. Not that I like smoky cars but the once a year or every two years is enough. To me sounds like some people need to be laid off to shorten our budget gap.

Not to mention of trafic mess that can cause. I think it's undue burden to the public considering California is the "car state" and just about everyone has a newer ride


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Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: LRJ4x4] #974381 12/01/09 08:07 AM
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To me sounds like some people need to be laid off to shorten our budget gap.


I think they are there to collect for the budget.


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Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: ChristianCrawler] #974382 12/01/09 08:16 AM
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i have found a informational link.

Roadside smog checks


My truck runs very clean but could use a new exhause system.



With a name like ChristianCrawler and you post a site with Hot Girls, Music, Tech and Cars makes one wonder. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/zombie.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" />

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Grasscat III, 1994 Gen 2 Five speed, Stock ( for a little while )

GrassCat II, 1998 Gen 2.5 Locked and loaded. Ran off with Hector.

GrassCat I, 1991 Gen 1 Ran off with Justice.
Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: Grasscat] #974383 12/01/09 10:28 PM
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Remember... driving is a privlage. You have no right to a motor vehicle, no right to a license. So the state can do whatever it wants to check your license and your vehicle.

Come to think of it...as George Carlin once said...you have no rights at all. What you have is a "bill of privlages". Not a bill of rights.

Don't believe me? Ask the newspaper reporters that Lincoln jailed during the civil war for not reporting what he wanted. Just ask the Japanese American citizens who were detained in world war two. What about their rights? They didn't have rights, just like you don't. They had privlages and privlages can be taken away from the government anytime they feel it's justified. In war, in diaster, or even when some supposed, ambiguous and indefinate overseas threat of terrorism looms over the country, or threat of communism...or threat of anything else.

There will also be a threat of something, so there always only be privlages.

Ask any concealed weapon permit holder about his right to bear arms concealed. It's a privlage that can be taken away if most issuers of those license feel your a danger to society and that's assuming your privlage to bear arms is even allowed in your city or state.

Ask any accused terrorist about their rights. Again..privlages. Privlages to a speedy trial, privlages to a lawyer. Privlages to be able to face your accused. They don't deserve any rights you say? Some of these guys are American citizens. What if you were dragged out of bed in the middle of the night and accused of fighting for the taliban? Would you think the same then? Why not? The government says it was you. And since your rights are only privlages....

The only difference between our privlages to drive a car and our privlages to free speech, is that most of us readily admit that owning a car is just a privlage. Most of us still believe that our right to free speech is inalienable and absolute. Yet, just try making a violent comment about the President in public and see how inalienable your right to free speech is. Try discussing how you believe our government should be overthrown, much like Jefferson advocated and see how long you a free man.

Welcome to the land of privlages. And if you think I'm full of it, just try running one of those smog stations and see how long your rights to be free last.

Yes it sucks. But the first battle to taking back our country and our rights is to first admit what our society and our poliical system has devolved into. Patriotism is not about a flag, or a set of borders, or any war that was previously fought. It certainly wasn't that way back when our country was founded.

The founders didn't fight over borders or flags or in support of their previous vetrens and wars, at least that was not their primary motivation. They fought, because they felt they were oppressed and they wanted to be indepedent and free men.

You've been indoctrinated to fight over borders and over property and to worship a piece cloth on a pole. And you've grown to accept that your rights to be truly free are secondary to those material things and your economic and personal security.

And now you know why you have no rights...but a lot of privlages instead.


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Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: Brian894X4] #974384 12/02/09 01:27 AM
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I love the Carlin bits....I remember that exact one about having no rights.

Well...the older I get, the more I think we need to deny them the right to lead us.


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Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: cmonty72] #974385 12/02/09 01:40 AM
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I love the Carlin bits....I remember that exact one about having no rights.

Well...the older I get, the more I think we need to deny them the right to lead us.


I agree.


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Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: 52degrees] #974386 12/02/09 02:50 PM
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I agree also..

Isn't this awesome too?
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5230


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Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: 87Montero] #974387 12/03/09 12:49 AM
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I just talked to my buddy who is a Sacramento County Sheriff. He said it wasn't them because that would be illegal. He did say that the California Highway Patrol do crap like that. They also pull over cars and check VINs on every part. He said he saw them remove and confiscate a door and a hood and let the guy drive off. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I dont know why they were OK with him driving a car missing crucial safety parts but I guess the Car Theft Task Force can do anything to anybody. If they decide your car might have stolen parts on it don't expect to be doing anything for the rest of the day as your detained and your car is dismantled.


96 Montero LS 24V DOHC 3.0L.
98 Montero 24v SOHC 3.5L, factory rear locker, Winter/tow package.
63 Jaguar XKE 3.8L FHC
2000 Mercedes-Benz e430
07 fj cruiser
Re: I wouldn't have believed it... [Re: cmonty72] #974388 12/03/09 01:44 AM
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