Extreme Terrain
4x4Wire Trail Talk Forums: Jeep, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Pajero, Isuzu, Kia, 4WD, 4x4, SUV, Off-Road and OutdoorWire Forums


Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 3 of 3 1 2 3
Re: The Chinese are pissed! [Re: TOASTY] #983471 02/09/10 05:15 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,634
bretwalda Offline
Roll Me Over


concreteprinter.com
Re: The Chinese are pissed! [Re: bretwalda] #983472 02/09/10 09:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,892
stony-man Offline
Web Wheeler
*****
WOW. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/scared.gif" alt="" /> Sharing that link.

Re: The Chinese are pissed! [Re: stony-man] #983473 02/10/10 02:41 AM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 6,768
Brian894X4 Offline OP
Trail Leader
*****
Cold war doesn't scare me.

This scares me.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6183KG20100209

China could do a lot more damage to us this way than any arms build up or even an actual shooting war. Besides, if anything, we probably would love an excuse to get into an arms race to get our military industrial complex back up and cranking again.


[color:"blue"]My Toyota/Expedition Website[/color]
Foreign & Military Toyotas - Expedition 4x4s
Our historical explorations & much more

Re: The Chinese are pissed! [Re: Brian894X4] #983474 02/10/10 02:50 AM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,950
cmonty72 Offline
Trail Leader
****
Whatever helps us get off the Chinese tit.


96 Montero LS 24V DOHC 3.0L.
98 Montero 24v SOHC 3.5L, factory rear locker, Winter/tow package.
63 Jaguar XKE 3.8L FHC
2000 Mercedes-Benz e430
07 fj cruiser
Re: The Chinese are pissed! [Re: Brian894X4] #983475 02/12/10 10:07 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,634
bretwalda Offline
Roll Me Over
Quote
Cold war doesn't scare me.

This scares me.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6183KG20100209

China could do a lot more damage to us this way than any arms build up or even an actual shooting war. Besides, if anything, we probably would love an excuse to get into an arms race to get our military industrial complex back up and cranking again.


US bond auctions are starting to fail.


concreteprinter.com
Re: The Chinese are pissed! [Re: bretwalda] #983476 02/12/10 11:57 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,873
H
holger Offline
Body Damage is Cool
I suppose that if the dollar really falls, then it may actually be a good thing for the average US population. We will have to start actually produce some things, and there will be more real jobs for the middle-class. For my occupation, software development, it may be good, too: in recent years, the management of the most companies entertains the idea that all software developers will sit in China, but all managers and capitalists will live in the USA - total utopia, IMHO, if you move the production jobs to China, then eventually all management jobs will move there, and Chinese capitalists will take over the companies, too.


Oleg
Axiom 4WD 2004: OME shocks, 32" BFG Mudders, RockSliderz, OME929+2" spacers, Stinkyfab bent RE rear links, front ARB locker, rear No-Slip locker, DOR front axle lowering kit, custom middle section skid plate, IronMan torsion bars.
Deceased Rodeo'02 4WD.
Re: The Chinese are pissed! [Re: holger] #983477 02/13/10 01:17 AM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 6,768
Brian894X4 Offline OP
Trail Leader
*****
Quote
I suppose that if the dollar really falls, then it may actually be a good thing for the average US population. We will have to start actually produce some things, and there will be more real jobs for the middle-class. For my occupation, software development, it may be good, too: in recent years, the management of the most companies entertains the idea that all software developers will sit in China, but all managers and capitalists will live in the USA - total utopia, IMHO, if you move the production jobs to China, then eventually all management jobs will move there, and Chinese capitalists will take over the companies, too.


The Chinese have already taken over many markets themselves, far quicker than even I envisioned. As mentioned in another thread that apparently got the panties of a certain whiny kitty in a bunch...I was pointing out that some of the largest companies and banks in the world are now fully owned and operated by the Chinese.

One of the problems with the idea that we will start to produce things here if our dollar collaspes is that we've already lost our skill set and our manufacturing base, so it would next to impossible to rebuild that...especially if were in an economic depression due to a collasped dollar.

Think about other countries that have gone through similiar fates to ours. Are they suddenly manufacturing economies? No, they are just depressed economies.

Also, a collasped dollar will likely be replaced by a new currency on the global market, worth much more than the dollar, so anyone who holds dollars will be extremely poor compared to those who hold the new currency, which means most Americans will be extremely poor compared to the rest of the global market.

There's a lot of different theories about what could happen. Other currencies besides the dollar are also in just as big of trouble. So essentially everyone owning a paper fiat currency could eventually be poor. Which could mean we could all be in the same boat...which might collectively soften the entire blow.

But likely would also lead to a single world currency, banking system and probably single world government, that will most likely be tryanical on some level.


[color:"blue"]My Toyota/Expedition Website[/color]
Foreign & Military Toyotas - Expedition 4x4s
Our historical explorations & much more

Page 3 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  4x4Wire, Jack_Booted_Mod 







4x4Wire Social:

| 4x4Wire on FaceBook |


OutdoorWire, 4x4Wire, JeepWire, TrailTalk, MUIRNet-News, and 4x4Voice are all trademarks and publications of OutdoorWire, Inc. and MUIRNet Consulting.
Copyright (c) 1999-2019 OutdoorWire, Inc and MUIRNet Consulting - All Rights Reserved, no part of this publication may be reproduced in any form without express written permission
You may link freely to this site, but no further use is allowed without the express written permission of the owner of this material.
All corporate trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 7.4.33 Page Time: 0.006s Queries: 16 (0.004s) Memory: 0.6261 MB (Peak: 0.7334 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2026-05-28 21:09:10 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS