good post Brian ... I would say your right ...But ...
"I feel" that China will melt down at some point soon ...
The only way China have gotten ware it is ..Is by keeping its people in the dark for 500 years now ... Well now with the web and all the Chinese people now have info about the rest of the world .. Big parts of China and its people are not Chinese and dont want to be under Chinese rule ... I'm 44 years old and I bet in my life time China will go the way of the USSR and melt down and brake up ... They have a population thats going to the streets and protesting now ...Give them ten years there going to have so much unrest to deal with that there not going to have the time to take over the world ...
Not saying I'm right ...Just thinking out loud
David
Hazardous Toys inc
You make an interesting point. Although I should point out that Chinese domination of the world is not my fear or prediction. Domination will come, but it be through the consolidation of the international banking system into a one world system ruled by elite power brokers from all over the world.
I believe China is more a pawn of their own creation to create instability in the world and to redirect resources and industrial power from a nation that is rule by it's poeple to a nation that is not, and therefore a less direct threat to a globalized system.
In the end, China may challenge that globalized system in some future military action or become a part of it. I'm not sure which. I don't think China is part of the elite system that is trying to reorganize the world. In an odd ironic way, China may prove to be the only direct threat to the global world order that is coming. Which then leaves freedom loving people to have to choose between the lesser of two evils. The role the U.S. will play will likely simply be another partner in the new globalized system as a declined superpower.
As far as internal revolution and unrest in China, that's been essentially the hope or the expectation for a long time. My take on that theory is this....
There is this idea..especially by Americans...that people inherently want freedom and democracy. But even in this country, we regulary trade both, when we even just percieve that we are in danger or that we will lose out economically.
In the end, modern human nature is one of self interest above all else. Freedom is only desired when it goes hand in hand with immediate self interest.
If you look at our past history, self interest and freedom and democracy did go hand in hand. In the days prior to communism, socialism, etc, when the government or business or special interests took away your freedom, economic oppression almost always followed. People starved. People died.
If you look the roots of our revolution, it wasn't so much that we wanted self determination from the British, but the British were oppressing us economically. Or at least they were oppressing the rich of the colonies, which where is where the revolution was started and later funded. When the South tried to succeed is was largely over economic issues.
My point is this...if people feel like they have some sort of security, safety and economic prosperity, they are willing to give up a lot of freedom. And if they are not used to freedom or democracy, they certainly aren't going to trade their own security and prosperity for it.
Anymore than you or I are going to trade our jobs, where the bosses tell us exactly what to do and run our lives for at least 8 hours a day, for the freedom to roam the nation and do whatever we want, but also risk starvation and an uncomfortable life.
The Soviet Union collasped, not because people rebelled against the oppression, but because it collasped economically and that can be traced largely to the collaspe of oil prices in the 1980s and bank restrictions on Soviet borrowing...not anything Reagan did directly. Except the arms race definately put more strain on the Soviet Union's economy that it did with ours at the time. We had a lot more borrowing power than they did and we ended up on top.
The revolutions and break aways that did occure, occured after the economic collaspe and people were jobless and starving and had enough.
With China...they are economically growing. Most Chinese are in FAR better shape than they were before and so when you combine propaganda that influences national pride, with better economic conditions, there's little to no chance of revolution right now...no matter how much you try to influence the people.
Most Chinese that leave China to study or work abroad are just as fiercly patriotic about their nation as when they lived there, despite being exposed to all of our freedoms and media. Sometimes even more so, when they see the hardships and crime that come with a society that guarantees people human rights and protections from government.
The danger for China would come if they did actually have a major economic collaspe or recession or depression. Then the population may become restless. And there's always a risk of that with any economy. Not the least of which is our own.
Between China and the U.S., the U.S. is in the most immediate danger, IMO. We are running deficets that are more the entire Federal budget only a few years ago. That's not sustaintable. At some point, we are going to run out of money and credit and that point could probably be counted in years on less than two hands. Maybe even only one hand.
China, like the U.S. after WW2, is now holding a huge amount of world industrial production. Even in a downturn, they will still produce for the world...while we will not. They will suffer, but suffer less.
Because they are more oppressive to their society and because of logistial problems with a huge society, it's hard to say what the political results will be. They are in a better position to crack down on a restless society than we are. Their population is far more used to hardships than our spoiled rich population is.
In this country, there's no doubt that if our government can't sustain itself and feed and house the many millions that depend on it, we will have massive riots and serious issues. Our poorest Americans still far better than the vast majority of Chinese and our population is largely less educated and far less self sustainable on an individual level. We are essentially a nation of weak stupid children. Whereas china is a nation of surviors who are used to hardship.
So, in the end, both the U.S. and China face instability, but the U.S. has a far more immediate problem and I think we are more likely to suffer our fate sooner and under worse conditions.
But the future at this point is hard to predict. If we continue to decline and China amasses more and more of the global resources and industrial depedence, our riks only goes higher, whereas theirs is reduced.
If we collaspe immediately and China follows us because of their current depedence on our economic market, then that would bad for them.
