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Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed [Re: Kevin C] #983739 02/03/10 09:25 PM
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zarktheshark Offline
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If I had to do it all over again, I think I would wait and find the v6 auto swb vs the 4cyl auto. The only reason being EFI and a little more HP's stock for running the bigger rubber. Note, I'm doing a few mods to my 4cyl and will see if it makes a difference. Just my 2cents.


'88 Raider. 2.6L dead...2.4L swap in progress, AT, 33's, 2 bouncy seat,AC, CC, 2.25 exh, 2" Tbar, 2" BL, rear DB, rear LSD,4.90's, SW hubs,gen2 uca's, KYB shocks, snorkel, elec fan, MSD.

'99 chev k3500 crewcab
'15 Subaru XV
'03 BMW i325
Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed [Re: Kevin C] #983740 02/03/10 09:49 PM
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Be extra careful about the mechanical condition of any of the 4 cyl.


Not prone to overheating, just to cracked heads, then overheating. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

That said a good 2.6 will last a long time. However the V6 model have a lot more desirable features. The 4 cyl are great for turbo swaps.

Kevin


My understanding was that a poorly operating cooling system is what causes the engine to run hotter and thus causes the head cracking but maybe not. Anyways, lots of good advice here. That site is awesome. Would have been handy when looking for my SWB. I know I wouldn't sell mine as cheap as most of those but I have put some dollars into mine to keep it in excellent condition because it is worth it to me.


1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB V6. Torsion bar crank, Gen II springs, 31X10.5" BF Goodrich M/T's
2005 Mitsubishi Montero Limited 3.8 V6
2011 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport
Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed [Re: 89Montiero] #983741 02/03/10 10:31 PM
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ryany Offline
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Here's another search tool that I've used in the past when searching Craigslist for a vehicle - http://www.searchtempest.com/


95 Montero SR
3.8 MIVEC, Advance headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, Magnaflow muffler, OME shocks & rear springs, 2" body lift, 3" tank lift, 4.90s, TRE front locker, factory rear locker, Roger Brown Rock Sliderz, 315/75r16 (35") tires, Sport big brakes
Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed [Re: 89Montiero] #983742 02/03/10 11:01 PM
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I was making a subtle point, In my experience the 4 cyl are not prone to overheating. Specifically they came from the factory with a decent cooling system.

However like most aluminum head engines they are not very tolerant if it happens.

Kevin


87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed, see CL site mash [Re: KRheaPDX] #983743 02/04/10 07:17 AM
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It was being sold after being donated to a charitable organization, perhaps by a local dealer if I remember right.

There is an 89 SWB listed now in Salem, bit pricey at 3200. but it looks clean with lots of upgrades, etc. High miles though.

Best Rockdoc


1990 SWB Montero, 3.0l auto, ARB lockers, OME suspension, 32' BFG AT's, PIAA light upgrade.
Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed [Re: Kevin C] #983744 02/04/10 07:42 AM
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89Montiero Offline
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I was making a subtle point, In my experience the 4 cyl are not prone to overheating. Specifically they came from the factory with a decent cooling system.

However like most aluminum head engines they are not very tolerant if it happens.

Kevin


I guess that was my point too, radiators get plugged up, water pumps, hoses and water jackets fail or get plugged up with junk and the engine then is at greater risk than most to crack a head. I had an old Isuzu trooper with the same problem. Just sayin, Turbo conversion aside, the V6 engine is a preferable choice for me anyway.


1989 Mitsubishi Montero SWB V6. Torsion bar crank, Gen II springs, 31X10.5" BF Goodrich M/T's
2005 Mitsubishi Montero Limited 3.8 V6
2011 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport
Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed [Re: ryany] #983745 02/04/10 05:41 PM
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I use Craigspal for searching craigslist because you can select only the cities/states you want and it's free.

http://craigspal.com/


Eric
89 Raider V6, 35s, 5sp, welded rear, 8k winch
89 Raider 2.6 going on 84 4runner frame
Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed [Re: 89Montiero] #983746 02/04/10 05:50 PM
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Kevin C Offline
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I was making a subtle point, In my experience the 4 cyl are not prone to overheating. Specifically they came from the factory with a decent cooling system.

However like most aluminum head engines they are not very tolerant if it happens.

Kevin


I guess that was my point too, radiators get plugged up, water pumps, hoses and water jackets fail or get plugged up with junk and the engine then is at greater risk than most to crack a head. I had an old Isuzu trooper with the same problem. Just sayin, Turbo conversion aside, the V6 engine is a preferable choice for me anyway.


In that respect the V6 and the 4 are at equal risk to an overheat. However the 4 cyl heads are more likely to crack when abused and the both will warp on a severe over heat.

On the positive side new 4 cyl heads are easy to come by. Besides that silly point, as you pointed out the V6 is a better stock setup. The only weakness on the V6 I have seen is the front pulley. Perhaps my next build will be a four valve V6 SWB turbo.

I ended up swapping in a lot of V6 chassis parts on mine. Starting with one almost would have made sense.



Kevin


87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed [Re: Kevin C] #983747 02/04/10 08:32 PM
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zarktheshark Offline
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So, did you go check it out?


'88 Raider. 2.6L dead...2.4L swap in progress, AT, 33's, 2 bouncy seat,AC, CC, 2.25 exh, 2" Tbar, 2" BL, rear DB, rear LSD,4.90's, SW hubs,gen2 uca's, KYB shocks, snorkel, elec fan, MSD.

'99 chev k3500 crewcab
'15 Subaru XV
'03 BMW i325
Re: Oregon Gen 1 help needed [Re: zarktheshark] #983748 02/04/10 08:43 PM
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Kevin C Offline
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I never heard from Kevin (KRhea), dont know what happened.


87 Turbo Intercooled Raider, roller cam, torsen rear diff, LSD front diff, lockup auto with modified converter, V6 brakes, low transfer case gears...
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