Thanks for the reply's guys, I think they were probably broken by a want-a-be tire man in the past, probably before I bought the Jeep.

Grizzly wheels look like the old American racing wheel in the 60's. (remember Steve McQueens Mustang in the movie Bullit), the new Jeeps have real simular wheel, but the spokes (there are 5) are flattened out, mine at much more rounded, almost to a point. The Grizzly wheels came light gray almost silver in 96, later they were painted a dark gray for a year or so, then to the latest style.

I have beem watching Craigs List and seen most in the other 3 corners of the country, considering that they are an alloy, I would like ot pick them up to make sure they aren't damaged, and second to keep the truck monster from damaging them

thanks again for the suggestions
Doug