Thank you so much everyone, I have started moving forward cautiosly. Now I have a new question about the VLAs: Is there a particular orientation for the port on the side? I can't really see into the well the VLAs sit in but when I feel it there is a large opening on one side and a narrow slot on the other...I'll pull some more and keep track on the ones I pull but I was trying to do this one by one. Thanks again! I'm just a poor kid in Montana that found a monty to love (and hate). Open invite for gold panning (I have a patented claim), elk, deer, antelope, and anything else you want to know about the lost lands.