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Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: FrankR] #992661 07/13/10 05:38 PM
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Don't worry Larry.. you can leave that up to the Installer. I hear he's pretty experienced when it comes to these engines coming in and out. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/drunk.gif" alt="" />


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1992 Isuzu Pickup - Zombie Apocalypse
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Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: 87Montero] #992662 07/13/10 07:34 PM
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Frank, the lower ones for the motor mounts were the ones I was referring too. It makes sense now, because I was trying to fit them on the stand.

Brendan, that's what I hear... Looking forward to seeing you in action. I used to be alot faster than I am now. Never thought 34 and carrying some extra weight around the middle would slow me down soooo much. Probably too much football, drugs, drinking and smoking. Poor diet. Lack of sleep. Former high stress jobs. Wife. Kids. Damn, that list gets long if you think about it too much <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: hazy_daze] #992663 07/14/10 04:29 AM
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Got a good bit done today. I'll post pics in the morning.

I realized as I was putting new idler and tensioner pulleys on that I hadn't ordered an A/C tensioner pulley. So, I pulled up ASA and went looking. There was nothing in there for the A/C compressor, hoses, pulley, nada... I got a couple more VINs from the suppository and tried them. Same thing. What gives? Anybody else run up on this? I've spent the last hour going thru every single section and I see nothing on the A/C portion of the climate control. I see all the ducting, heater controls, wiring, yada yada...

Frickin weird... Ideas?

EDIT: Tried a VIN from an early GenII with a 3.0L. It looks like the bracket is the same. Checked the A/C belt numbers and they match, so it should be good. Bizarre that it wasn't there on my VIN, or the other GenI VINs that I tried, for that matter. On the GenII VIN, it was in the exact section where it logically should be...

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Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: hazy_daze] #992664 07/14/10 10:32 AM
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Frickin weird... Ideas?


Yes. Here's what's really weird...... I keep reminding you to look in the FSM for stuff and you keep looking in ASA and All-Data. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> If you don't have a parts catalog, look on MontyMcV's site and see if it's there. If it's not, I can send you a file copy of the Raider parts catalog - most of it should apply to your truck.

Page 24-126 of the '89 Raider parts catalog shows the A/C bracket, adjuster, tensioner pulley and belt. The tensioner pulley number is MB568933.

[EDIT] In case you can't find the parts catalog and need it today, I just sent it to you via email.[EDIT]

Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by FrankR; 07/14/10 10:49 AM.

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Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: FrankR] #992665 07/14/10 12:41 PM
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I'm running pullys from a 89 Dodge Caravan V6 on my 89 Raider ..A few washers under the pully and they worked great ...Hope that helps ...Great work

David

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Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: FrankR] #992666 07/14/10 01:51 PM
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Frank, I didn't get your email. Gmail can be persnickety about attachments. It is on McV's site and I'm downloading it now. MB568933 is the number I came up with in ASA, as soon as I found a VIN that had all of the A/C systems in it.


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Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: hazy_daze] #992667 07/14/10 03:26 PM
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Here are the pics of the progress from yesterday...

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Of note in this next pic, the exhaust manifold gaskets by Fel-pro are good enough in quality, but they are the same for both sides. OE lists 2 different P/N's. If you look closely, you can see the engine hanger bracket attached to the manifold on the far left is pushing up slightly on the heat shield portion of the gasket... No big deal, really, it just doesn't fit exactly the way OE did...

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More to come today...


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: hazy_daze] #992668 07/14/10 04:57 PM
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Looks good! I see you painted the timing marks - you'll appreciate that later.

No fresh paint on the brackets and fan pulley? Larry, Larry, Larry. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> Brendan won't know what's what. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif" alt="" /> Looks like you'll need to go through the pick-a-bolt pile again to find the 4th fan clutch bolt. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

You'll never know how much you'll appreciate the next suggestion unless you don't do it:

Temporarily install the lower intake (without the gaskets) and then install the upper intake (no gasket here, either) and make sure that the rear brace holes will line up. Adjust the brace if necessary and you'll avoid a major round of cussin' later. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/evil.gif" alt="" />

Frank <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif" alt="" />

Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: FrankR] #992669 07/14/10 05:16 PM
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Yeah they were painted on the last engine. One of the first things I did after my Dad brought her to me.

I don't like them unpainted either, they'll be coming off today for some paint and a trip thru the oven to cook. I've got a new fan clutch pulley bracket coming from Mitsu. Couldn't resist at only $32 <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. I'll see what it looks like before deciding whether or not to paint it. And, since I don't have a clutch fan anymore, I can't use the OE bolts because they go too deep and hit on the backside. I haven't found any elsewhere on the truck that would work so I could order new OE. I need them to be about 7-8mm shorter... Oh well, shiny Rockfords will have to suffice...

I've followed your tip to the letter. I've put some spare lower intake gaskets down, then the lower intake and lightly tightened the bolts. Then, I put a spare upper plenum gasket on and the upper plenum and snugged the bolts holding it down. Then I put both front and rear brackets in place and torqued them. The front brace incorporates an engine hanger that I'll... er Brendan will be using to hang it on the hoist on installation.

I've spent the last while fiddling with fitment of a large case GM CS144 alternator in the OE alternator bracket. Big thanks to Russell (rxinhed) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/kewl.gif" alt="" /> for fronting the spare bracket for me to cut on. That way if I don't like how it turns, it doesn't work, or it catches on fire, I can go back to the OE alternator with relative ease...

Stay tuned...


Fasteddy's advice is occasionally sound...
Re: To rebuild or not to rebuild, that is the question... *PICS* Update [Re: hazy_daze] #992670 07/14/10 05:33 PM
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fhuzz Offline
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Awesome work Hazy!!!
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New distibutor...

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Sorry for the hijack....

I stole the part number from your pic <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shiner.gif" alt="" /> as I'm looking for a new dizzy... but it seems to be for the late 89 - 94 V6 3.0L...

I've googled and can't seem to find a source or part number for for the late 88 - early 89 V6 3.0L.

As a parts guy, would it be possible to get a number for the earlier V6 dizzy? (if they are even available, I don't know)

Glad to see the progress you're making....

Awesome!!!

dT


'89 Monty LWB auto, 3rd row seating, 95SR rear + coils, genII UCA's and calipers/rotors, dual bouncies.
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