Extreme Terrain
4x4Wire Trail Talk Forums: Jeep, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Pajero, Isuzu, Kia, 4WD, 4x4, SUV, Off-Road and OutdoorWire Forums


Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
did replace fuel pump but no start ???? #997837 05/22/10 04:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 65
PCMONT Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
After reading posts i decided to replace the pump and the pump relay (because of a no start). Wen't to pick and pull for both items...especially after autozone quoted 125.00 for the relay. Prior note....i did have a indy shop diagnos and they claimed the pump died. Well replaced the pump and no fire up. Then repaled the relay and she sputtered for a couple seconds then nothing. I can hear the relay clicking after turning the key on and off. I am going back to work on her today and try putting power to the pump drive harness by the ECU. I also have no warning lights on. Hoping autozone will have a code reader i can rent. Any suggestions before i get back into her ? Thanks much, Chris


91 LWB 3.0 w/300K. Nothing fancy yet...still getting the quirks out and cosmetic fixes.
Re: did replace fuel pump but no start ???? [Re: PCMONT] #997838 05/22/10 11:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,324
K
KrzyDav Offline
Body Damage is Cool
*****
all you need to read codes on 89-94 V6 sohc is an analoge ohmmeter to get your codes.


dave h.
'89 Raider V6 5spd;Aisin Hubs;; Gen2 LS: frt. brakes, rear coils;U.C.arms;R.trailing arms;idler arm; rear LSD axle w.disc brakes ;2 battery system for Dog's fan; relocated ECU; custom bumpers;J.Baker receiver;Conferr roofrack; t-bar crank.
Re: did replace fuel pump but no start ???? [Re: PCMONT] #997839 05/22/10 11:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 32
B
Bijol Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Chris,

I'm running into exactly the same thing!

My ECU's is working perfectly, 'cuz I tried it in another Montero, and the relay clicks on Run and Start, but I get no voltage to the pump.

I pulled out the pump, and hotwired it, and it runs OK. Tested continuity from the relay to the pump, and it's OK, too.

Maybe the relay died, but I can't seem to find one at the P&P. Autozone has one? Yikes! $125 is kinda steep. If I can't find one cheaper, I just might re-wire two Bosch relays and pray that it'll work. Keep us posted if you find out what's wrong.

Thanx,
Chris

Re: did replace fuel pump but no start ???? [Re: KrzyDav] #997840 05/23/10 12:36 AM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 65
PCMONT Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
Im so fustrated !!!! I finally broke the main fuel line nut. Pump dosent spray in accessory position..but sprays when engine is turning over. Wired to the fuel pump test terminal above the ECU and still no fuel pumping out. Totally removed pump and hooked the neg and pos via jumper cables to battery and the pump was humming... As far as spark...new plugs...wires look good...rotor looks good... The pump relay clicks when i turn the key... im lost.... This is my daily driver and im toast not having transportation. MPI fusable link looks good also. aaarrrggghhhh. Please help !!!! I'ts fun to work on rigs when your upgrading or fixing a known problem. Now im totally stumped and quietly losing it.


91 LWB 3.0 w/300K. Nothing fancy yet...still getting the quirks out and cosmetic fixes.
Re: did replace fuel pump but no start ???? [Re: PCMONT] #997841 05/23/10 01:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,649
fasteddy Offline
Web Wheeler
*****
Pull the relay again and check it per the 89 manual, vol1, pp14-88 and 14-89, which requires some application of power to check voltage/continuity with relay(s) energized. Power to fuel pump is on in ign start via power form ign to relay. Power to fuel pump is controlled by ecu when ign is in run. No power to fuel pump in ign acc. position. It is instructive to examine the relay wiring from the wiring diagram at the first of section 14 (the MPI section).


Not responsible for advice not taken...
Re: did replace fuel pump but no start ???? [Re: fasteddy] #997842 05/23/10 03:20 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 32
B
Bijol Offline
Getting the Wheeling Fever
My relay passed all the tests. I'm REALLY stumped. The ECU's good, the wiring's good, the pump activates when powered, but not when connected.

Re: did replace fuel pump but no start ???? [Re: Bijol] #997843 05/23/10 03:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 13,649
fasteddy Offline
Web Wheeler
*****
Start tracing fuel pump power from the fuel pump test wire to the pump, and test the fuel pump ground wire.


Not responsible for advice not taken...
Re: did replace fuel pump but no start ???? [Re: PCMONT] #997844 05/23/10 03:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 396
Va_Stumpy Offline
Mudrunner
Are you sure your optical pick-up or power unit isn't flaky?When I got mine it would fire & cut off. I ended up replacing the optical pick-up. I know some more of you knowledgeable guys will comment;I don't want to see him spend any more money on something that doesn't get his rig running.

Last edited by Va_Stumpy; 05/23/10 03:57 AM.

Va_Stumpy
89 Raider
"Never judge horsepower by exhaust"
3.0
automatic
stock as a rock
Dual Bouncy Seats
Re: did replace fuel pump but no start ???? [Re: Va_Stumpy] #997845 05/23/10 04:32 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 65
PCMONT Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
what is the "optical pick up" ???
Another discovery....when i pulled the replacement pump out i noticed the rubber boot? on the bottom of the pump must have fallen off and into the tank. I will fish it out and re-install, but could this cause any electrical problems if it was missing?


91 LWB 3.0 w/300K. Nothing fancy yet...still getting the quirks out and cosmetic fixes.
Re: did replace fuel pump but no start ???? asking again [Re: Va_Stumpy] #997846 05/24/10 10:06 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 65
PCMONT Offline OP
Getting the Wheeling Fever
what is the optical pick-up ? Im still dead in the water and getting an ohm meter to run codes tonight. I really think it has to be electrical...cause when i pulled the pump motor out and jumped it off the battery....it turned. But no turning when i tried connecting the fuel pump jump terminal next to the ecu (before i pulled the pump).


91 LWB 3.0 w/300K. Nothing fancy yet...still getting the quirks out and cosmetic fixes.
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3







4x4Wire Social:

| 4x4Wire on FaceBook |


OutdoorWire, 4x4Wire, JeepWire, TrailTalk, MUIRNet-News, and 4x4Voice are all trademarks and publications of OutdoorWire, Inc. and MUIRNet Consulting.
Copyright (c) 1999-2019 OutdoorWire, Inc and MUIRNet Consulting - All Rights Reserved, no part of this publication may be reproduced in any form without express written permission
You may link freely to this site, but no further use is allowed without the express written permission of the owner of this material.
All corporate trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 7.4.33 Page Time: 0.007s Queries: 16 (0.004s) Memory: 0.6393 MB (Peak: 0.7636 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2026-05-30 05:11:09 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS